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Post by dupbeavs on Dec 8, 2017 23:16:44 GMT -8
Please dont get me wrong, just reading the tea leaves, I have no direct knowledge but leaving for Washington for the same position in 2012 for a mere 19K more per year is my reference.
Moving to USC and being celebrated as an outstanding recruiter and DB coach at the most established school in the conference raises his national profile.
He has recruited to full fledged new facilities at Washington, USC, Louisville and now Oregon... We have hope for a few seasons if we offer him DC but if DC is available where he is there is no way we can compete for him. I wish and would hope he could see it as a duty to return to us to join the vision but it just has not been in his nature in the past.
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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 8, 2017 23:49:56 GMT -8
Please dont get me wrong, just reading the tea leaves, I have no direct knowledge but leaving for Washington for the same position in 2012 for a mere 19K more per year is my reference. Moving to USC and being celebrated as an outstanding recruiter and DB coach at the most established school in the conference raises his national profile. He has recruited to full fledged new facilities at Washington, USC, Louisville and now Oregon... We have hope for a few seasons if we offer him DC but if DC is available where he is there is no way we can compete for him. I wish and would hope he could see it as a duty to return to us to join the vision but it just has not been in his nature in the past. It's going to be fun watching this all play out over the next couple weeks and see where all the dominoes fall. |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Dec 8, 2017 23:54:49 GMT -8
Please dont get me wrong, just reading the tea leaves, I have no direct knowledge but leaving for Washington for the same position in 2012 for a mere 19K more per year is my reference. Moving to USC and being celebrated as an outstanding recruiter and DB coach at the most established school in the conference raises his national profile. He has recruited to full fledged new facilities at Washington, USC, Louisville and now Oregon... We have hope for a few seasons if we offer him DC but if DC is available where he is there is no way we can compete for him. I wish and would hope he could see it as a duty to return to us to join the vision but it just has not been in his nature in the past. On the joebeaver show today, CJS stated more than once he was looking for low ego, high output coaches for his staff. KH may not be a fit? Time will tell I suppose. Go Beavs!! |
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 9, 2017 7:18:20 GMT -8
Here is what does not make sense if KJ is not coming to the Beavs - what is Niner waiting for to announce a DC? If KJ had let Niner know he wasn't interested why would Niner wait?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 9, 2017 7:29:24 GMT -8
Wyoming guy has a bowl game on the 22nd. Inoke has a bowl game on Jan. 1. He said he doesn't mind being late if he's getting it right.
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Post by rockybeav on Dec 9, 2017 8:35:03 GMT -8
Is it typical for assistant coaches to wait until after a bowl game before moving on? Seems like other coaching staffs like Miss. State, UT, etc. are at least announcing staff who are on bowl-bound teams. Personal preference of the coaches?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 8:43:25 GMT -8
Is it typical for assistant coaches to wait until after a bowl game before moving on? Seems like other coaching staffs like Miss. State, UT, etc. are at least announcing staff who are on bowl-bound teams. Personal preference of the coaches? No, its not typical. The Ducks assistants are required by contract (I believe) which is rare But otherwise guys usually change jobs before the Bowl. And often even if they do coach the Bowl they still announce their move prior to the Bowl. The only logical reason to be waiting is for Heyward (and on the dam podcast it was said that Smith and Heyward have only had one 5 minute conversation so I don't have a clue what is happening). I understand wanting to get the hire right but I've never seen it take weeks to get a staff together. I am on board with the Smith hire but this is worrying me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 8:52:23 GMT -8
I understand wanting to get the hire right but I've never seen it take weeks to get a staff together. I am on board with the Smith hire but this is worrying me. We know |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 9, 2017 8:54:52 GMT -8
Please dont get me wrong, just reading the tea leaves, I have no direct knowledge but leaving for Washington for the same position in 2012 for a mere 19K more per year is my reference. Moving to USC and being celebrated as an outstanding recruiter and DB coach at the most established school in the conference raises his national profile. He has recruited to full fledged new facilities at Washington, USC, Louisville and now Oregon... We have hope for a few seasons if we offer him DC but if DC is available where he is there is no way we can compete for him. I wish and would hope he could see it as a duty to return to us to join the vision but it just has not been in his nature in the past. Heyward left for quite a bit more than 19k. He made 105k at OSU in 2011 (that article mentioned minimum UW assistant pay was 124k). He signed a two year contract at UW for 150k in 2012 and 160k in 2013. I’m not sure if he asked OSU to match or not, but he essentially got a 40-50% raise with the move. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Dec 11, 2017 18:26:23 GMT -8
And a commensurate increase in cost of living in Seattle with congested population.
Keiths got a plan. It’s not about money per se. He’s climbing the ladder. As quick as he can.
Now he’s in the craphole down south. But he lives in Corvallis.... lol. It’s all part of a plan. Doubt he really pays Beavs that much attention.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Dec 11, 2017 18:42:18 GMT -8
Thanks for the clarification on the contract, thanks for the information. I understand KH wants to be a DC. The only situation where I'd be "upset" as a beaver fan is if he had comparable offers by OSU and UO, and elected to stay at UO. If he gets a better offer from them, I'd be disappointed but I wouldn't hold it against him necessarily. The guy from Wyoming does sound promising. It looks like he learned under Gus Bradley for a few years when he was at the Jags, which is solid. I'm concerned, as I always have been, about recruiters. We need some more stud recruiters on the staff. KH by all accounts is an elite recruiter. The bad news (re: Wyoming's DC):The $uck$ put up 42 on them in the first half. Not that their offense was exactly helping matters. The good news: That's 10 less than the $uck$ put up on OSU and they (Wyoming) were fairly solid defensively against the rest of the teams on their schedule - though they lost to a fairly terrible SJSU team (20-17) in their last regular season game, following a narrow 13-7 loss against Freshole. what is fascination with a DC from Wyoming....I’m just asking. Hasn’t looked so special to me.... I don’t really care what he’s done in Mountain West... or not. He got worked by the zeros...... why exactly would we be interested.... and question.... was 3M playin* when they had Fresno ? |
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Post by rockybeav on Dec 16, 2017 18:03:08 GMT -8
Eggers response to someone posting about Heyward coming to OSU
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 16, 2017 19:17:01 GMT -8
Keith has already turned us down. He’s not coming.
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Post by beavadelic on Dec 16, 2017 19:55:28 GMT -8
Keith has already turned us down. He’s not coming. VERY disappointing, but it is what it is. I know that JS wants with all his heart to get the best DC possible. I trust him to do all within his power to make that happen. I just don’t want him to be forced to alter his Plan A because of money. I know that a lot of conversation swirled around here about how Andersen was forced to settle for his coordinators. If at all true, that stinks, and certainly didn’t help a guy who had plenty of his own problems in terms of talent evaluatiion, vision and player development. I just don’t want to see JS hamstrung. I know nothing about the Wyoming DC, and trying to gauge his abilities by reviewing Mountain West stats does nothing to clarify how good he is for me. We were fed a pep talk about Clune’s stats in that conference, and he sucked in the PAC 12. Of course, even Sitake -he of the sterling national persona - struggled in his lone year here. In fairness, he was charged with creating a 3-4 system with a bunch of 4-3 personnel, but there is no guarantee that the big name will get it done quickly here either. The biggest disappointment with Heyward (other than drinking the koolaid that was doled out by several “sources” who said that JS was sure to bring him and other big names here) is in the area of recruiting. I just want to see some young guys who are proven in that area on this staff. Even though it will be rare to snag 4-star kids no matter who we have, I want to see fresh new faces who can sell oceanfront property in Central Oregon working the pipelines. The schools that we have been winning battles against are mostly comparable to those we competed against for talent in the mid 90’s, and even if the star system is really a crapshoot, when your school is on the short list along with several legit Power 5 schools - occasionally even the LA schools - and snags one of those periodically it really impacts the national perception of your program for prospects and the media. |
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Post by joecool on Dec 16, 2017 20:39:01 GMT -8
Eggers response to someone posting about Heyward coming to OSU Eggers is probably right but remember how he just botched the Petras commitment story. |
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