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Post by zebraworks on Jan 18, 2018 10:54:59 GMT -8
Luton is not an accurate passer so it doesn't matter how much he understands the offense, how well he moves in pocket or how strong his arm is because he is ALWAYS a liability and with our crappy defense we can't turn the ball over with a turnover machine like him.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 18, 2018 11:03:36 GMT -8
I don't know what to think about Luton just yet. He was being asked to run a poorly coached offense he's not built for and still completed over 60% of his passes. Too bad he only has this upcoming season, if he were in the system for a while he's got tons of potential.
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Post by beaverdude on Jan 18, 2018 11:07:47 GMT -8
Luton is not an accurate passer so it doesn't matter how much he understands the offense, how well he moves in pocket or how strong his arm is because he is ALWAYS a liability and with our crappy defense we can't turn the ball over with a turnover machine like him. The same thing was said of Matt Moore. Where does the turnover "blame" fall? The urgency to make any play? The lack of solid line play? The scheme? Luton's talent level? I believe its in the order listed above |
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Jan 18, 2018 11:33:24 GMT -8
61.5% completion rating is like .8% less than Mannion his senior year. He also had 4 picks and three of them in his first game. Our offense was a dumpster fire and to place that on his shoulders is crap. I agree with beaverdude.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jan 18, 2018 11:37:14 GMT -8
61.5% completion rating is like .8% less than Mannion his senior year. He also had 4 picks and three of them in his first game. Our offense was a dumpster fire and to place that on his shoulders is crap. I agree with beaverdude.
Sort of an apples and oranges comparison given the different offenses each ran. I'd argue Manion would be close to 70% throwing dink and dunk passes in Andersen's 2017 offense and Luton would be mid 50% trying to operate Riley's offense coming right out of JC.
Luton's accuracy and timing just isn't there yet for deeper throws and longer throws (to the sidelines). But again, give him a year or two in that system with quality QB coaching (which I'm sure he never received at OSU) and his numbers would improve markedly.
I know this, whoever wins the QB battle, it's gonna be real easy to not second guess the coaches.
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Post by zebraworks on Jan 18, 2018 11:41:53 GMT -8
Luton is not an accurate passer so it doesn't matter how much he understands the offense, how well he moves in pocket or how strong his arm is because he is ALWAYS a liability and with our crappy defense we can't turn the ball over with a turnover machine like him. The same thing was said of Matt Moore. Where does the turnover "blame" fall? The urgency to make any play? The lack of solid line play? The scheme? Luton's talent level? I believe its in the order listed above Didn't moore throw 6 picks at one home game his Jr. year[yep against UA]?? at the time he had 4 TD's and 16 INT's for the season!! LOL I wasn't real high on the guy, he did improve his sr. year and has made a good career of being a back-up. |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jan 18, 2018 12:12:00 GMT -8
I think the dip$#!tery that describes the former staff is spot on. Our QB situation (and offense as a whole) is already vastly improved if for no other reason than those a$$clowns have hit the road.
Go Beavs!! |
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Post by bennyorange on Jan 18, 2018 12:48:07 GMT -8
I think the dip$#!tery that describes the former staff is spot on. Our QB situation (and offense as a whole) is already vastly improved if for no other reason than those a$$clowns have hit the road.
Go Beavs!! Dilly Dilly !!! |
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Post by greshambeaver on Jan 22, 2018 6:26:28 GMT -8
Luton is not an accurate passer so it doesn't matter how much he understands the offense, how well he moves in pocket or how strong his arm is because he is ALWAYS a liability and with our crappy defense we can't turn the ball over with a turnover machine like him. The same thing was said of Matt Moore. Where does the turnover "blame" fall? The urgency to make any play? The lack of solid line play? The scheme? Luton's talent level? I believe its in the order listed above |
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Post by greshambeaver on Jan 22, 2018 6:28:08 GMT -8
Matt Moore was no slouch when he needed to run, Riley didn't want him out of the pocket much. Luton is a statue compared to Moore.
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Post by orangeattack on Jan 22, 2018 7:02:27 GMT -8
Matt Moore was no slouch when he needed to run, Riley didn't want him out of the pocket much. Luton is a statue compared to Moore. Matt Moore was a stud athlete, a baseball player who had pro prospects had he chosen to go that route. He had a live arm and a magnetic personality and he had offers from everybody and chose UCLA. Getting Moore was a major coup. He was an Elite 11 qb and a legitimate blue chip, and every sports publication had some little blurb about the highly touted former Bruin qb. Jake Luton is not Matt Moore. Watch who the qb is that Riley helps CJS reel in very next, because that’s the guy we will want to compare to other former QBs and we end up comparing Luton to Tyler Byrd. |
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 22, 2018 10:04:26 GMT -8
Since Stanford and QBs were brought up in this thread, is Keller Chryst a viable option? He has just announced he will be doing the graduate transfer thing for his 5th year.
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Post by atownbeaver on Jan 22, 2018 10:56:28 GMT -8
Since Stanford and QBs were brought up in this thread, is Keller Chryst a viable option? He has just announced he will be doing the graduate transfer thing for his 5th year. It is believed he is going to go to Wisconsin. Paul Chryst is his uncle. But, you never know. He probably doesn't start there. If he is transferring to be able to start, not sure he goes there. As for him coming here. Eh, I'd rather have an incoming QB have more than a year available to them, particularly in a year that is clearly (ugh, again) rebuilding. I'd rather have the guy that is going to be here a few years starting. and if we are going to go with a one and done, I'd favor just having Luton fight for that right. That, and I have never really been overwhelmed with him. He seems spectacularly average. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 22, 2018 11:20:11 GMT -8
Since Stanford and QBs were brought up in this thread, is Keller Chryst a viable option? He has just announced he will be doing the graduate transfer thing for his 5th year. It is believed he is going to go to Wisconsin. Paul Chryst is his uncle. But, you never know. He probably doesn't start there. If he is transferring to be able to start, not sure he goes there. As for him coming here. Eh, I'd rather have an incoming QB have more than a year available to them, particularly in a year that is clearly (ugh, again) rebuilding. I'd rather have the guy that is going to be here a few years starting. and if we are going to go with a one and done, I'd favor just having Luton fight for that right. That, and I have never really been overwhelmed with him. He seems spectacularly average. IIRC we recruited him out of HS too but it was between Stanford and Bama.. maybe Pitt?. So I'm sure MR is plenty familiar. Agree though, haven't been very impressed. We can probably round up some other guys who can complete 50% of their passes for 150 yards. |
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Post by ag87 on Jan 22, 2018 14:35:26 GMT -8
I think if he was average he would not have lost his starting job. I'd take Luton over him in a second.
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