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Post by biggieorange on May 2, 2018 16:10:22 GMT -8
I hope some of the Chris Peterson Way rubbed off on Coach Smith.
UW has been very consistent in the draft the last few.
Since 2015 (4 seasons) UW has had 16 players drafted this was Peterson's second year in Seattle.
I didn't count the 2 drafted in 2014 as I would assume he had only minimal impact on those guys
To put it in perspective, between 2004-2013 (8 seasons) UW had 16 players drafted.
Obviously Gary sucked in Corvallis, but the sample size is a bit too small to really speak to a trend, but averaging 1 draft pick a year is horrible.
During Mike Riley last 7 seasons in Corvallis the Beavers averaged 3 per year, 21 total. Probably about what OSU should expect to do given the average rankings of incoming classes.
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Post by seastape on May 2, 2018 16:28:28 GMT -8
I hope some of the Chris Peterson Way rubbed off on Coach Smith. There is no doubt in my mind that Peterson rubbed off on Smith. Smith has credited Peterson as a major influence and a coach he would like to emulate in many interviews. I have no doubt that Smith has seen Peterson's success and would like to adopt a lot of his approaches to the game as his own. In fact, I have always had the impression that Smith thinks of Peterson as an influence more than he does that of Riley or Erickson.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 3, 2018 14:53:11 GMT -8
I hope some of the Chris Peterson Way rubbed off on Coach Smith. UW has been very consistent in the draft the last few. Since 2015 (4 seasons) UW has had 16 players drafted this was Peterson's second year in Seattle. I didn't count the 2 drafted in 2014 as I would assume he had only minimal impact on those guys To put it in perspective, between 2004-2013 (8 seasons) UW had 16 players drafted. Obviously Gary sucked in Corvallis, but the sample size is a bit too small to really speak to a trend, but averaging 1 draft pick a year is horrible. During Mike Riley last 7 seasons in Corvallis the Beavers averaged 3 per year, 21 total. Probably about what OSU should expect to do given the average rankings of incoming classes. Players drafted 2009-2015: 1. USC 44 2. Oregon 28 3. Stanford 26 4. California 22 5. Oregon State 21 5. Utah 21 7. UCLA 18 8. Arizona State 16 9. Arizona 13 9. Washington 13 11. Colorado 10 12. Washington State 6
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Post by spudbeaver on May 3, 2018 20:40:57 GMT -8
I hope some of the Chris Peterson Way rubbed off on Coach Smith. UW has been very consistent in the draft the last few. Since 2015 (4 seasons) UW has had 16 players drafted this was Peterson's second year in Seattle. I didn't count the 2 drafted in 2014 as I would assume he had only minimal impact on those guys To put it in perspective, between 2004-2013 (8 seasons) UW had 16 players drafted. Obviously Gary sucked in Corvallis, but the sample size is a bit too small to really speak to a trend, but averaging 1 draft pick a year is horrible. During Mike Riley last 7 seasons in Corvallis the Beavers averaged 3 per year, 21 total. Probably about what OSU should expect to do given the average rankings of incoming classes. Players drafted 2009-2015: 1. USC 44 2. Oregon 28 3. Stanford 26 4. California 22 5. Oregon State 21 5. Utah 21 7. UCLA 18 8. Arizona State 16 9. Arizona 13 9. Washington 13 11. Colorado 10 12. Washington State 6Pretty dang respectable in my opinion.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 3, 2018 20:53:21 GMT -8
Players drafted 2009-2015: 1. USC 44 2. Oregon 28 3. Stanford 26 4. California 22 5. Oregon State 21 5. Utah 21 7. UCLA 18 8. Arizona State 16 9. Arizona 13 9. Washington 13 11. Colorado 10 12. Washington State 6Pretty dang respectable in my opinion. Most of California's draftees were while Tedford was pulling in top 20 recruiting classes. Once Utah joined the Pac-12, the Utes fell off, as well.
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Post by ee1990 on May 3, 2018 23:50:12 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit.
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Post by thetruebeav on May 4, 2018 6:59:01 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. ee1990- Coach A left with out his big boy pants, in the middle of the night & sold out his own coaches while goin out. He signed up for the gig and criticism is warranted. He left the program in shambles and quit on his own locker room. Message board peeps have a right to state the facts. It's a two way street. It was one of the most bizzare endings that I have ever seen. Not one time sitting in front of reporters answering tough questions. Nope.... scurry back to the homeland. He deserves any heat
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Post by NativeBeav on May 4, 2018 7:15:22 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. ee1990- Coach A left with out his big boy pants, in the middle of the night & sold out his own coaches while goin out. He signed up for the gig and criticism is warranted. He left the program in shambles and quit on his own locker room. Message board peeps have a right to state the facts. It's a two way street. It was one of the most bizzare endings that I have ever seen. Not one time sitting in front of reporters answering tough questions. Nope.... scurry back to the homeland. He deserves any heat One tends to do that when there is a de-facto non-disclosure agreement. The REAL collusion story . And save me the BS about him being a swell guy for leaving the 12mil on the table on his way out the door.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 4, 2018 7:18:50 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. That’s just nutty. Pretty much every time people predicted 2 win seasons under MR they were completely wrong. We had people saying they couldn’t see another win 2-3 games into his 10 win season. His final season here would have been turned by a healthy and present Seumalo, or a present Crichton or a present Cooks. Stuff happens though, and it still was a lot better product than GA ever put out at OSU.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 4, 2018 12:40:17 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. That’s just nutty. Pretty much every time people predicted 2 win seasons under MR they were completely wrong. We had people saying they couldn’t see another win 2-3 games into his 10 win season. His final season here would have been turned by a healthy and present Seumalo, or a present Crichton or a present Cooks. Stuff happens though, and it still was a lot better product than GA ever put out at OSU. Exactly... as born out in fact. How many GAG-like seasons did MR have over his entire two tenures at OSU? Yeah... "destined" 🤣
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Post by beavered on May 5, 2018 7:55:11 GMT -8
I hope some of the Chris Peterson Way rubbed off on Coach Smith. There is no doubt in my mind that Peterson rubbed off on Smith. Smith has credited Peterson as a major influence and a coach he would like to emulate in many interviews. I have no doubt that Smith has seen Peterson's success and would like to adopt a lot of his approaches to the game as his own. In fact, I have always had the impression that Smith thinks of Peterson as an influence more than he does that of Riley or Erickson. I'd just like to point out that if a certain long time poster was still with us, this thread would have taken a drastically different turn after consecutive posts referencing Peterson "rubbing off" on Coach Smith. RIP Beavermobile
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 6, 2018 15:19:13 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. The 2015 offensive line returned the most starts of any offensive line since at least 2006. Everyone was returning off the two-deeps except Mannion and Ward. The offense was going to glisten in 2015 with Riley at the helm. Instead, GAG ran off an SEC-level talented QB and played a WR at QB for more than half the year, burying a Big 12 starter and an All-Conference Mountain West QB in "the process." The defense was probably going to regress a bit in 2015, but GAG decided to not play the most talented linebacker in an apparent effort to try and make him an SEC starter, as well. The results? By several metrics, the 2015 defense was the worst defense in Oregon State history. The offense also put up Pettibone-era numbers, as well. In 2016, GAG torched the offense yet again and buried McMaryion a second time on the depth chart. The defense put up even worse numbers. However, McMaryion, almost by himself, kept the high school level offense working. In 2017, GAG torched the offense again. The defense actually showed some progress. (How could it get any worse?) However, the offense was a steaming pile of garbage. No, CMR was not destined for a two-win season. BDC, through his genius, was actively working to make the team terrible in 2014, but CMR still was able to put together a 5-7 season. With the full support of the President and AD, GAG was able to successfully turn a 5-7 team into a 2-10 team. Two more years at the helm with the full support of the President and AD, GAG was able to cobble together the worst team in Oregon State history by some metrics.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 7, 2018 9:48:39 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. You can have the biggest raging hate boner in the world for Riley, and the biggest raging man crush boner in the world for Andersen, and it will never erase the fact that Andersen will go down in history as one of the 3 worse coaches in Oregon State history, while Riley will go down in history as one of the 3 best. Period and end of discussion.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 7, 2018 10:16:05 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. You can have the biggest raging hate boner in the world for Riley, and the biggest raging man crush boner in the world for Andersen, and it will never erase the fact that Andersen will go down in history as one of the 3 worse coaches in Oregon State history, while Riley will go down in history as one of the 3 best. Period and end of discussion. I don't think in all of the years that Avezzano coached here OSU ever played a team with as bad of a record as PSU had this season. PSU missed a field goal and several missed extra points and came up just shy of a victory. This year's OSU team was three season's in to the "process" and getting worse. Andersen had said this OSU team will win 10 games sometime in the next few years... most of us thought he meant "in a season". I don't really see how Andersen can be mentioned as being one of the worst three. I'd say two, not sure who the other one would be though.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 7, 2018 10:45:58 GMT -8
You can have the biggest raging hate boner in the world for Riley, and the biggest raging man crush boner in the world for Andersen, and it will never erase the fact that Andersen will go down in history as one of the 3 worse coaches in Oregon State history, while Riley will go down in history as one of the 3 best. Period and end of discussion. I don't think in all of the years that Avezzano coached here OSU ever played a team with as bad of a record as PSU had this season. PSU missed a field goal and several missed extra points and came up just shy of a victory. This year's OSU team was three season's in to the "process" and getting worse. Andersen had said this OSU team will win 10 games sometime in the next few years... most of us thought he meant "in a season". I don't really see how Andersen can be mentioned as being one of the worst three. I'd say two, not sure who the other one would be though. It is a tight race for the turd crown, that is for sure. Craig Fertig coached to a 10-34-1 record, but pulled off a handful of stunners among those 10 wins. Joe Avezzano coached to a 6-47-1 record, and pulled off about zero stunners. The fact that guy was allowed to Coach at OSU for 5 seasons is everything you needed know about the administration at the time. And Gary Andersen coached to a 7-23 record and pulled off about zero stunners, and one good win with the Civil War victory. But it took facing the worse Ducks squad in more than a decade to do it. It was timing more than coaching by a country mile.
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