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Post by TheGlove on May 7, 2018 10:50:52 GMT -8
I disagree with the thread premise. The the GA s%#tshow will continue to negatively deliver through a lack of depth well into next year.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on May 7, 2018 14:25:05 GMT -8
I disagree with the thread premise. The the GA s%#tshow will continue to negatively deliver through a lack of depth well into next year. So you're saying CJS can't unshackle us from the perpetual a$$kicking machine until 2020? Ouch, that will leave a mark...........
Go Beavs!
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Post by albanianbeav on May 7, 2018 15:01:05 GMT -8
A slap, especially to the face, stings well after the slap is delivered. I think the integrity of the title is sound....is it ok to disagree with the administrator? Will it result in me languishing as a freshman forever?
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Post by TheGlove on May 7, 2018 16:04:16 GMT -8
A slap, especially to the face, stings well after the slap is delivered. I think the integrity of the title is sound....is it ok to disagree with the administrator? Will it result in me languishing as a freshman forever? Only time will tell...
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on May 7, 2018 16:22:29 GMT -8
Wisky bounced back fairly quickly from GAG's sudden departure. Of course their AD wouldn't allow him to give their program a clean kick in the crotch either.......so there is that......
Fundamentals, scheme, teamwork!!
Go Beavs!!
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Post by ee1990 on May 8, 2018 20:54:48 GMT -8
Hilarious thread. Like CMR wasn't destined for 2 win seasons on the trajectory he left at. Half the people who had their pitchforks pointed and torches lit are the same ones raging on CGA. Swings and misses happen. Have some damn class. Hopefully CJS is a big hit. You can have the biggest raging hate boner in the world for Riley, and the biggest raging man crush boner in the world for Andersen, and it will never erase the fact that Andersen will go down in history as one of the 3 worse coaches in Oregon State history, while Riley will go down in history as one of the 3 best. Period and end of discussion. Yikes. I'm embarrassed for you. You have some serious confusion going on.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 9, 2018 7:12:04 GMT -8
You can have the biggest raging hate boner in the world for Riley, and the biggest raging man crush boner in the world for Andersen, and it will never erase the fact that Andersen will go down in history as one of the 3 worse coaches in Oregon State history, while Riley will go down in history as one of the 3 best. Period and end of discussion. Yikes. I'm embarrassed for you. You have some serious confusion going on. I think, somehow, someway, I will manage to sleep soundly at night, despite your vicarious embarrassment.
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Post by biggieorange on May 9, 2018 8:19:43 GMT -8
You can have the biggest raging hate boner in the world for Riley, and the biggest raging man crush boner in the world for Andersen, and it will never erase the fact that Andersen will go down in history as one of the 3 worse coaches in Oregon State history, while Riley will go down in history as one of the 3 best. Period and end of discussion. Yikes. I'm embarrassed for you. You have some serious confusion going on. Source or citation? Whos your top three then ee1990? Remember need to be football coaches that coached the Beavers. I feel like any objective football fan would agree that Riley is one of the 3 best coaches OSU has ever had. Sure the competition isn't too steep but the likes of Kragthorpe and Pettibone aren't really difficult to outdo. I get that you probably busted a nut when Riley left and "Tough Talkin' Anderson" took over so you aren't objective, but get over yourself. Riley is a good coach and Anderson was an ALL TIME WORST. It isn't FAKE NEWS.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 9, 2018 8:32:55 GMT -8
Yikes. I'm embarrassed for you. You have some serious confusion going on. Source or citation? Whos your top three then ee1990? Remember need to be football coaches that coached the Beavers. I feel like any objective football fan would agree that Riley is one of the 3 best coaches OSU has ever had. Sure the competition isn't too steep but the likes of Kragthorpe and Pettibone aren't really difficult to outdo. I get that you probably busted a nut when Riley left and "Tough Talkin' Anderson" took over so you aren't objective, but get over yourself. Riley is a good coach and Anderson was an ALL TIME WORST. It isn't FAKE NEWS. Avezzanno likely holds the crown for worst. But Andersen was absolutely a special type of terrible. I would put him below Fertig, Kragthorpe and definitely below Pettibone. While those unique authors of 28 losing seasons were all pretty terrible, they at least had an excuse of having zero interest and support from the university, well below peer standard facilities and funding, and the compounding affect of years and years of losing after awhile. Andersen had no such excuses, as Oregon State had been long established as a contender, and the down year that Riley left was still 5 wins including a shocker over ASU at the end of the season. OSU had been to back to back bowls before that in 2012 and 2013, and before that, been in 13 bowl games since 1999. I will officially declare Coach Gary "big boy pants" Andersen as the 2nd worse coach in Oregon State history. This article from a year or so ago agrees with us on Riley, they rank him #3 all time after Stiner and Prothro. I would agree with that take. www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/2017/11/22/prothro-tops-among-osu-football-coaches/867028001/
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Post by Judge Smails on May 9, 2018 9:20:08 GMT -8
Source or citation? Whos your top three then ee1990? Remember need to be football coaches that coached the Beavers. I feel like any objective football fan would agree that Riley is one of the 3 best coaches OSU has ever had. Sure the competition isn't too steep but the likes of Kragthorpe and Pettibone aren't really difficult to outdo. I get that you probably busted a nut when Riley left and "Tough Talkin' Anderson" took over so you aren't objective, but get over yourself. Riley is a good coach and Anderson was an ALL TIME WORST. It isn't FAKE NEWS. Avezzanno likely holds the crown for worst. But Andersen was absolutely a special type of terrible. I would put him below Fertig, Kragthorpe and definitely below Pettibone. While those unique authors of 28 losing seasons were all pretty terrible, they at least had an excuse of having zero interest and support from the university, well below peer standard facilities and funding, and the compounding affect of years and years of losing after awhile. Andersen had no such excuses, as Oregon State had been long established as a contender, and the down year that Riley left was still 5 wins including a shocker over ASU at the end of the season. OSU had been to back to back bowls before that in 2012 and 2013, and before that, been in 13 bowl games since 1999. I will officially declare Coach Gary "big boy pants" Andersen as the 2nd worse coach in Oregon State history. This article from a year or so ago agrees with us on Riley, they rank him #3 all time after Stiner and Prothro. I would agree with that take. www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/2017/11/22/prothro-tops-among-osu-football-coaches/867028001/I'd still have him 3rd worst. Fertig was worse than him.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 9, 2018 9:42:14 GMT -8
Avezzanno likely holds the crown for worst. But Andersen was absolutely a special type of terrible. I would put him below Fertig, Kragthorpe and definitely below Pettibone. While those unique authors of 28 losing seasons were all pretty terrible, they at least had an excuse of having zero interest and support from the university, well below peer standard facilities and funding, and the compounding affect of years and years of losing after awhile. Andersen had no such excuses, as Oregon State had been long established as a contender, and the down year that Riley left was still 5 wins including a shocker over ASU at the end of the season. OSU had been to back to back bowls before that in 2012 and 2013, and before that, been in 13 bowl games since 1999. I will officially declare Coach Gary "big boy pants" Andersen as the 2nd worse coach in Oregon State history. This article from a year or so ago agrees with us on Riley, they rank him #3 all time after Stiner and Prothro. I would agree with that take. www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/2017/11/22/prothro-tops-among-osu-football-coaches/867028001/I'd still have him 3rd worst. Fertig was worse than him. I'll politely fight you on this! (offseason, I'm bored...) Fertig got 4 seasons (fun fact, he was paid $26,000/year on his first contract in 1975. That is equivalent to $125K/year using the CPI calculator). He was 10-34-1. Pretty darn miserable. But. He never O-fered in conference. in each year he mustered at least one Pac-8/10 win and beat a #9 UCLA team at home and a #13 BYU at home. his 3-7-1 record was the best at OSU for a decade (egad). None of his wins were "lower division" and arguably his weakest opponent win was a then independent Hawaii. 5 of his 10 wins were conference opponents. Gary Anderson was 7-23. He went 2-10, 4-8 and then 1-5 before quitting. His high was one win better than Fertig. But Andersen was twice O-fer in conference play, and was lifetime 3-18 in conference. Andersen never mustered a ranked win, and 3 of his 7 wins was lower division teams (Weber State, Idaho State, Portland State) and one was a mountain west team (and a really bad one at the time) in San Jose State. Both sucked... Andersen had less excuse for sucking in my opinion, had fewer "good" wins and twice went O-fer in conference. I have no reason to believe if he stuck the season out he would won any games, and likely would of been a fully official twice O-fer in conference play, a lifetime 3-24 conference record (worse than Fertigs 5-25) and a lifetime 7-29 record.
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Post by mbabeav on May 9, 2018 10:05:52 GMT -8
Source or citation? Whos your top three then ee1990? Remember need to be football coaches that coached the Beavers. I feel like any objective football fan would agree that Riley is one of the 3 best coaches OSU has ever had. Sure the competition isn't too steep but the likes of Kragthorpe and Pettibone aren't really difficult to outdo. I get that you probably busted a nut when Riley left and "Tough Talkin' Anderson" took over so you aren't objective, but get over yourself. Riley is a good coach and Anderson was an ALL TIME WORST. It isn't FAKE NEWS. Avezzanno likely holds the crown for worst. But Andersen was absolutely a special type of terrible. I would put him below Fertig, Kragthorpe and definitely below Pettibone. While those unique authors of 28 losing seasons were all pretty terrible, they at least had an excuse of having zero interest and support from the university, well below peer standard facilities and funding, and the compounding affect of years and years of losing after awhile. Andersen had no such excuses, as Oregon State had been long established as a contender, and the down year that Riley left was still 5 wins including a shocker over ASU at the end of the season. OSU had been to back to back bowls before that in 2012 and 2013, and before that, been in 13 bowl games since 1999. I will officially declare Coach Gary "big boy pants" Andersen as the 2nd worse coach in Oregon State history. This article from a year or so ago agrees with us on Riley, they rank him #3 all time after Stiner and Prothro. I would agree with that take. www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/2017/11/22/prothro-tops-among-osu-football-coaches/867028001/I would agree. Anyone who had to coach during the post-Andros era, with a university administration that could have cared less about athletics in general, was coaching with an arm and a leg tied behind their back. (IMO President Risser saved OSU sports). In 2013, mid season, OSU was #7 in the BCS in football, and the next season we "only" won 5 games and Riley left. Coach Andersen came in and took the program back to the Fertig/Avezanno era by season 3 and ran away, too embarrassed? to even fight for a portion of his remaining contract. I have to rate him at the very bottom as a coach in OSU history. Coach Riley is in the top 3 on my list - Andersen dead last.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on May 9, 2018 10:32:30 GMT -8
I'd still have him 3rd worst. Fertig was worse than him. I'll politely fight you on this! (offseason, I'm bored...) Fertig got 4 seasons (fun fact, he was paid $26,000/year on his first contract in 1975. That is equivalent to $125K/year using the CPI calculator). He was 10-34-1. Pretty darn miserable. But. He never O-fered in conference. in each year he mustered at least one Pac-8/10 win and beat a #9 UCLA team at home and a #13 BYU at home. his 3-7-1 record was the best at OSU for a decade (egad). None of his wins were "lower division" and arguably his weakest opponent win was a then independent Hawaii. 5 of his 10 wins were conference opponents. Gary Anderson was 7-23. He went 2-10, 4-8 and then 1-5 before quitting. His high was one win better than Fertig. But Andersen was twice O-fer in conference play, and was lifetime 3-18 in conference. Andersen never mustered a ranked win, and 3 of his 7 wins was lower division teams (Weber State, Idaho State, Portland State) and one was a mountain west team (and a really bad one at the time) in San Jose State. Both sucked... Andersen had less excuse for sucking in my opinion, had fewer "good" wins and twice went O-fer in conference. I have no reason to believe if he stuck the season out he would won any games, and likely would of been a fully official twice O-fer in conference play, a lifetime 3-24 conference record (worse than Fertigs 5-25) and a lifetime 7-29 record. And 1 of those 7 wins, 14% of his total, was come from behind squeaker against a winless PSU who whipped the home team in every facet but the scoreboard. Avezzanno was bad, and I think he knew it. GAG was worse, and he didn't have a clue.
Go Beavs!!
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Post by Judge Smails on May 9, 2018 10:42:23 GMT -8
Avezzanno likely holds the crown for worst. But Andersen was absolutely a special type of terrible. I would put him below Fertig, Kragthorpe and definitely below Pettibone. While those unique authors of 28 losing seasons were all pretty terrible, they at least had an excuse of having zero interest and support from the university, well below peer standard facilities and funding, and the compounding affect of years and years of losing after awhile. Andersen had no such excuses, as Oregon State had been long established as a contender, and the down year that Riley left was still 5 wins including a shocker over ASU at the end of the season. OSU had been to back to back bowls before that in 2012 and 2013, and before that, been in 13 bowl games since 1999. I will officially declare Coach Gary "big boy pants" Andersen as the 2nd worse coach in Oregon State history. This article from a year or so ago agrees with us on Riley, they rank him #3 all time after Stiner and Prothro. I would agree with that take. www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/2017/11/22/prothro-tops-among-osu-football-coaches/867028001/I would agree. Anyone who had to coach during the post-Andros era, with a university administration that could have cared less about athletics in general, was coaching with an arm and a leg tied behind their back. (IMO President Risser saved OSU sports). In 2013, mid season, OSU was #7 in the BCS in football, and the next season we "only" won 5 games and Riley left. Coach Andersen came in and took the program back to the Fertig/Avezanno era by season 3 and ran away, too embarrassed? to even fight for a portion of his remaining contract. I have to rate him at the very bottom as a coach in OSU history. Coach Riley is in the top 3 on my list - Andersen dead last. On the other side, I would have Riley as 2nd best behind Prothro. Andros went in the tank his last few years, so I would have him 3rd best. Pretty bad when your 3rd best coach has a losing overall record. Oops forgot DE. Although, I wouldn’t put him in the top 2 just because of the short tenure.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 9, 2018 11:48:45 GMT -8
I'll politely fight you on this! (offseason, I'm bored...) Fertig got 4 seasons (fun fact, he was paid $26,000/year on his first contract in 1975. That is equivalent to $125K/year using the CPI calculator). He was 10-34-1. Pretty darn miserable. But. He never O-fered in conference. in each year he mustered at least one Pac-8/10 win and beat a #9 UCLA team at home and a #13 BYU at home. his 3-7-1 record was the best at OSU for a decade (egad). None of his wins were "lower division" and arguably his weakest opponent win was a then independent Hawaii. 5 of his 10 wins were conference opponents. Gary Anderson was 7-23. He went 2-10, 4-8 and then 1-5 before quitting. His high was one win better than Fertig. But Andersen was twice O-fer in conference play, and was lifetime 3-18 in conference. Andersen never mustered a ranked win, and 3 of his 7 wins was lower division teams (Weber State, Idaho State, Portland State) and one was a mountain west team (and a really bad one at the time) in San Jose State. Both sucked... Andersen had less excuse for sucking in my opinion, had fewer "good" wins and twice went O-fer in conference. I have no reason to believe if he stuck the season out he would won any games, and likely would of been a fully official twice O-fer in conference play, a lifetime 3-24 conference record (worse than Fertigs 5-25) and a lifetime 7-29 record. And 1 of those 7 wins, 14% of his total, was come from behind squeaker against a winless PSU who whipped the home team in every facet but the scoreboard. Avezzanno was bad, and I think he knew it. GAG was worse, and he didn't have a clue.
Go Beavs!!
I think one of the most awe inspiring things about his vapid ineptitude is just how many things he had to blunder to be as bad as he was. Just how many times he had to repeatedly make the wrong call and then take it further... and when it looked like he got his footing, freaking just double down and throw it all on the junk heap. It is honest to god like he was purposefully TRYING to be as bad as he was. There is no other explanation. He was an University of Oregon operative. This is deep state s%#t right here.
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