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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 13, 2019 14:07:24 GMT -8
There are three letters I have for you baseball. GFY. Good luck peddling your leftist PC-flavored arguments elsewhere. They don't work on me. Friendly has left the debate.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jul 13, 2019 17:21:23 GMT -8
I actually like Craig Bray as a defensive co-ordinator better than Banker. It is true,Rocky coached at osu a long time ago,and maybe my memory of him isn't as good as watching my hopes of going to a Rose Bowl get eviscerated at Reser by the uo 65-38 when we looked like a little league defense. Those kind of emotional losses stick with me watching the Banker defenses when my expectations are peaking. No offense.... but that year v. ducks.... we had no chance winning that game. It might have been for the Rose Bowl.... but we had no chance. Weren’t sniffing it.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jul 13, 2019 17:27:03 GMT -8
And where is Banker now ...... And where is Rocky Long ? .... Case closed. Rocky rocks.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 13, 2019 18:10:59 GMT -8
And where is Banker now ...... And where is Rocky Long ? .... Case closed. Rocky rocks. Nice logic... NOT! Guess MR terrible compared to GAG.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jul 14, 2019 16:17:44 GMT -8
And where is Banker now ...... And where is Rocky Long ? .... Case closed. Rocky rocks. Nice logic... NOT! Guess MR terrible compared to GAG. Pretty sure it works for Rocky..... Banker.... not so much. And what logic ……… this is a message board bud. There is no logic. kinda like hijacking discussion of a D Coordinator to one of head coaches. Which is a totally different discussion. At the the end of the day, Rocky Long has had a very good career that continues . I don’t even know if Banker is employed. So in coaching community and by resume. No comparison. And having gone to OSU games both coached in.... I’d take Rocky. He was very inventive with what he had, which wasn’t much, and were the best part of those lame years. I really have nothing against Banker.... he was decent against conventional type offense. But could not adapt to spread and other more open offenses. I also don’t think one can just look at yards, points and other D stats in comparison because the problem Rocky ran into often was his D would play lights out for a half..... or 3 quarters.... and then just flat run out of gas because the roster was thin and the offense never did squat. So eventually Beavs would get beat. Just my opinion. Not a dissertation for PhD. Ill give you this..... Bankers D was better than anything your boy, GAG and his staff threw on the field
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 14, 2019 19:14:25 GMT -8
Nice logic... NOT! Guess MR terrible compared to GAG. Pretty sure it works for Rocky..... Banker.... not so much. And what logic ……… this is a message board bud. There is no logic. kinda like hijacking discussion of a D Coordinator to one of head coaches. Which is a totally different discussion. At the the end of the day, Rocky Long has had a very good career that continues . I don’t even know if Banker is employed. So in coaching community and by resume. No comparison. And having gone to OSU games both coached in.... I’d take Rocky. He was very inventive with what he had, which wasn’t much, and were the best part of those lame years. I really have nothing against Banker.... he was decent against conventional type offense. But could not adapt to spread and other more open offenses. I also don’t think one can just look at yards, points and other D stats in comparison because the problem Rocky ran into often was his D would play lights out for a half..... or 3 quarters.... and then just flat run out of gas because the roster was thin and the offense never did squat. So eventually Beavs would get beat. Just my opinion. Not a dissertation for PhD. Ill give you this..... Bankers D was better than anything your boy, GAG and his staff threw on the field Banker is the Assistant Head Coach at Hawai'i.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 14, 2019 20:30:38 GMT -8
Nice logic... NOT! Guess MR terrible compared to GAG. Pretty sure it works for Rocky..... Banker.... not so much. And what logic ……… this is a message board bud. There is no logic. kinda like hijacking discussion of a D Coordinator to one of head coaches. Which is a totally different discussion. At the the end of the day, Rocky Long has had a very good career that continues . I don’t even know if Banker is employed. So in coaching community and by resume. No comparison. And having gone to OSU games both coached in.... I’d take Rocky. He was very inventive with what he had, which wasn’t much, and were the best part of those lame years. I really have nothing against Banker.... he was decent against conventional type offense. But could not adapt to spread and other more open offenses. I also don’t think one can just look at yards, points and other D stats in comparison because the problem Rocky ran into often was his D would play lights out for a half..... or 3 quarters.... and then just flat run out of gas because the roster was thin and the offense never did squat. So eventually Beavs would get beat. Just my opinion. Not a dissertation for PhD. Ill give you this..... Bankers D was better than anything your boy, GAG and his staff threw on the field Rocky never had a D anywhere comparable to Mark... period. The "more with less" is a BS attempt to cover one's opinion. Inventive... never nationality ranked in an era of much better athletes and offenses. So the talent argument goes both ways.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jul 14, 2019 23:26:42 GMT -8
A lot of interesting points made. But here’s one myth that needs to be thrown out immediately: This talk of “In 2008 NO ONE could stop the ducks any better than our D.” In the infamous “punch in the gut 65-38 rose bowl missed chance game” our D gave up 694 yards. Oregon only averaged 468 yards in all other games that year.
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Post by ag87 on Jul 15, 2019 8:51:41 GMT -8
No,Brecterfield was a late era Pettibone recruit who played his jr and sr years in Riley I
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 15, 2019 9:49:39 GMT -8
Pretty sure it works for Rocky..... Banker.... not so much. And what logic ……… this is a message board bud. There is no logic. kinda like hijacking discussion of a D Coordinator to one of head coaches. Which is a totally different discussion. At the the end of the day, Rocky Long has had a very good career that continues . I don’t even know if Banker is employed. So in coaching community and by resume. No comparison. And having gone to OSU games both coached in.... I’d take Rocky. He was very inventive with what he had, which wasn’t much, and were the best part of those lame years. I really have nothing against Banker.... he was decent against conventional type offense. But could not adapt to spread and other more open offenses. I also don’t think one can just look at yards, points and other D stats in comparison because the problem Rocky ran into often was his D would play lights out for a half..... or 3 quarters.... and then just flat run out of gas because the roster was thin and the offense never did squat. So eventually Beavs would get beat. Just my opinion. Not a dissertation for PhD. Ill give you this..... Bankers D was better than anything your boy, GAG and his staff threw on the field Rocky never had a D anywhere comparable to Mark... period. The "more with less" is a BS attempt to cover one's opinion. Inventive... never nationality ranked in an era of much better athletes and offenses. So the talent argument goes both ways. And who should know BS better than you. Seems it’s ok for anyone to express an opinion as long as they agree with the almighty baseballs. If not, it’s BS
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 15, 2019 10:12:51 GMT -8
Rocky never had a D anywhere comparable to Mark... period. The "more with less" is a BS attempt to cover one's opinion. Inventive... never nationality ranked in an era of much better athletes and offenses. So the talent argument goes both ways. And who should know BS better than you. Seems it’s ok for anyone to express an opinion as long as they agree with the almighty baseballs. If not, it’s BS It's no longer an opinion when you state one is better simply because he's still "employed"... and then don't even know that both are! But, of course that's far better than your "savior" complex.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 10:18:52 GMT -8
And who should know BS better than you. Seems it’s ok for anyone to express an opinion as long as they agree with the almighty baseballs. If not, it’s BS It's no longer an opinion when you state one is better simply because he's still "employed"... and then don't even know that both are! But, of course that's far better than your "savior" complex. if i'm refereeing this one i say you get a point here: +1 It's no longer an opinion when you state one is better simply because he's still "employed"... and then don't even know that both are! but then take one away here: -1 But, of course that's far better than your "savior" complex. so i call that round even.
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Post by qbeaver on Jul 15, 2019 10:27:15 GMT -8
A lot of interesting points made. But here’s one myth that needs to be thrown out immediately: This talk of “In 2008 NO ONE could stop the ducks any better than our D.” In the infamous “punch in the gut 65-38 rose bowl missed chance game” our D gave up 694 yards. Oregon only averaged 468 yards in all other games that year. Not as if it would made much difference...uo had a bye before the civil war that game which they rolled us 65-38. The only other game a felt so bad after,which I attended, was the Banker coached game in 2013 when the Dawgs beat us 69-23 at Reser. I could have averaged 10 yards a carry against the osu defense at plus 50 years old. Banker is a defensive assistant at Hawaii. He still owns a condo in Corvallis,because his daughter is married to Brett Casey and they have kids together living in Corvallis.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 15, 2019 11:06:57 GMT -8
It's no longer an opinion when you state one is better simply because he's still "employed"... and then don't even know that both are! But, of course that's far better than your "savior" complex. if i'm refereeing this one i say you get a point here: +1 It's no longer an opinion when you state one is better simply because he's still "employed"... and then don't even know that both are! but then take one away here: -1 But, of course that's far better than your "savior" complex. so i call that round even. He should lose more than 1 when he of all posters claims that I have a savior complex.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 11:27:09 GMT -8
if i'm refereeing this one i say you get a point here: +1 It's no longer an opinion when you state one is better simply because he's still "employed"... and then don't even know that both are! but then take one away here: -1 But, of course that's far better than your "savior" complex. so i call that round even. He should lose more than 1 when he of all posters claims that I have a savior complex. Dude punching after the bell -1
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