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Post by rmancarl on Jun 5, 2024 20:56:09 GMT -8
After her playing career was over she got a job at Duke. Hardly part of a mass exodus. She had a year of eligibility remaining due to covid, but yeah. I love Aleah, but yes, she could have stuck around another year at a time when the Beavs could have really used her to keep the program rolling, and now, when the program needs a lift, she is leaving again. It hurts, even though I understand this is a good move for her career. What all the players have done, and now Aleah, is probably what they think is best for them, so I get it, but I would love to see players and coaches that love the Beaver program enough that they want to stick around "through sickness and health". Apparently, that's just unrealistic thinking on my part. Hopefully Aleah will come back some day.
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Post by standerd on Jun 5, 2024 21:41:26 GMT -8
How could it be Rueck? She accepted an offer to play for him, stuck around for four years with him, and accepted an offer to work for him. This is now how she makes her living, so a lot of me doesn't blame her for doing what she deems best for her career. The other lot of me, however, is very, very disappointed to see another alum who prospered here, both as a player and a coach, pull a Jonathan Smith and desert her alma mater when it needs her most. To have her leave here and go to the traitorous Huskies makes it even worse. I suppose Talia will brand me a hater for saying that. I wasn't saying it's Rueck. I was asking if that's what Standerd was getting at. I agree that it's disappointing to see another well liked alum bail, but I think it's pretty obvious that all 10 of the players and assistants are doing what they think is the best for them under the circumstances. Circumstances that have changed drastically. I apologize for being so cryptic. I don’t think this has anything to do with Rueck. I think the entire OSU Athletic Program was blindsided by the dissolution of the PAC 12 and this is the fallout. Everyone trying to patch together a future for many programs going forward. Thanks grayman for better articulating what I was thinking.
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Post by oldbeav on Jun 5, 2024 23:09:23 GMT -8
Probably taking the spot of former Beav asst coach, Katie Faulkner, who left WA to become the head coach at Pepperdine
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jun 6, 2024 2:48:38 GMT -8
She had a year of eligibility remaining due to covid, but yeah. I love Aleah, but yes, she could have stuck around another year at a time when the Beavs could have really used her to keep the program rolling, and now, when the program needs a lift, she is leaving again. It hurts, even though I understand this is a good move for her career. What all the players have done, and now Aleah, is probably what they think is best for them, so I get it, but I would love to see players and coaches that love the Beaver program enough that they want to stick around "through sickness and health". Apparently, that's just unrealistic thinking on my part. Hopefully Aleah will come back some day. What the departures of all of these WBB players and coaches is teaching me is how I view OSU and how these folks view OSU are quite different. I don't know that these players really associate with the school the way a "normal" student/alum/fan does. They have their own social circle consisting of their teammates, and life on the road means they are likely even in class and on campus less that the "normal" student. And now they will simply be paid employees, crafting the best NIL and revenue share deal in exchange for wearing the institution's jersey for a season. And revisit every season. SR was content at Linfield, probably content at OSU regardless of conference affiliation. Clearly most of his players were not, and some of his assistants as well. Aleah is very young in her career, and I don't begrudge her being ambitious and wanting to coach athletes at the highest level. I wish her well, but I don't wish the school she is going to well (the consequence of having had a "normal" OSU student experience, I don't like uw very much). It's going to take us a couple of years to find our "new normal" - there is still much uncertainty in the air until a new Pac-12 is formed or WCC/MWC conferences are embraced - and I am steeling myself for a couple of years of tumult and upheaval in the player and coaching ranks until we find that new normal. I just hope Aleah doesn't find some "diamond in the rough" to cherry pick from our team, new recruits or recruiting backlog to take to Duke, I mean, uw, with her....... Go Beavers!
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 6, 2024 4:31:21 GMT -8
I love Aleah, but yes, she could have stuck around another year at a time when the Beavs could have really used her to keep the program rolling, and now, when the program needs a lift, she is leaving again. It hurts, even though I understand this is a good move for her career. What all the players have done, and now Aleah, is probably what they think is best for them, so I get it, but I would love to see players and coaches that love the Beaver program enough that they want to stick around "through sickness and health". Apparently, that's just unrealistic thinking on my part. Hopefully Aleah will come back some day. What the departures of all of these WBB players and coaches is teaching me is how I view OSU and how these folks view OSU are quite different. I don't know that these players really associate with the school the way a "normal" student/alum/fan does. They have their own social circle consisting of their teammates, and life on the road means they are likely even in class and on campus less that the "normal" student. And now they will simply be paid employees, crafting the best NIL and revenue share deal in exchange for wearing the institution's jersey for a season. And revisit every season. SR was content at Linfield, probably content at OSU regardless of conference affiliation. Clearly most of his players were not, and some of his assistants as well. Aleah is very young in her career, and I don't begrudge her being ambitious and wanting to coach athletes at the highest level. I wish her well, but I don't wish the school she is going to well (the consequence of having had a "normal" OSU student experience, I don't like uw very much). It's going to take us a couple of years to find our "new normal" - there is still much uncertainty in the air until a new Pac-12 is formed or WCC/MWC conferences are embraced - and I am steeling myself for a couple of years of tumult and upheaval in the player and coaching ranks until we find that new normal. I just hope Aleah doesn't find some "diamond in the rough" to cherry pick from our team, new recruits or recruiting backlog to take to Duke, I mean, uw, with her....... Go Beavers! Linfield?
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Jun 6, 2024 5:05:51 GMT -8
Don't let the door hit you in the ass. I believe she was part of the first mass exodus. Want people here who care. After her playing career was over she got a job at Duke. Hardly part of a mass exodus. 2 players followed her to Duke. She was part of it.
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Post by lebaneaver on Jun 6, 2024 5:48:13 GMT -8
Something is f%#*ed up. She bolted in a lateral move after only one season. Unless she’ll make significantly more $$$$, this is another middle finger at the program. WHY does it bother some of you so personally, when others question SR and his program? I hate unfounded conspiracy theories, but something “ain’t” right.
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Post by markwbeaver on Jun 6, 2024 6:19:32 GMT -8
It's wishful thinking to see this as a lateral move. Clearly a move from the WCC to the Big 10 is not lateral for a coach. Goodman's move as much as any of the others reveals the depth of the disaster of the Beavers being left out of the conference shuffle. I'm happy to blame USC, UW, and the Duckies as the leaders of the many villains in this story. But it's a disaster nonetheless.
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 6, 2024 7:38:35 GMT -8
Something is f%#*ed up. She bolted in a lateral move after only one season. Unless she’ll make significantly more $$$$, this is another middle finger at the program. WHY does it bother some of you so personally, when others question SR and his program? I hate unfounded conspiracy theories, but something “ain’t” right. As already pointed out it’s not a lateral move. I’d expect that assistant coaches in the Big 10 make more $$ than WCC assistants. And becoming a head coach somewhere in the future is likely enhanced by serving as a Big Ten assistant. As far as Goodman’s first departure from OSU, what’s not to understand about playing college basket for four seasons and then being drafted into the WNBA? She did afterall, make an WNBA roster, and is rightfully called a former WNBA player (albeit for just 3 minutes: 1 assist, 1 foul).
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Post by brewster on Jun 6, 2024 8:42:05 GMT -8
I'm in the didn't see it coming camp, at least not today. Credit to Oregon State University's women's basketball program for her career path OSU put her on; OSU starter, WNBA cup of coffee, Duke, OSU, Elite 8, and now UW. Impressive. Always winning.
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Post by lebaneaver on Jun 6, 2024 8:45:00 GMT -8
Something is f%#*ed up. She bolted in a lateral move after only one season. Unless she’ll make significantly more $$$$, this is another middle finger at the program. WHY does it bother some of you so personally, when others question SR and his program? I hate unfounded conspiracy theories, but something “ain’t” right. As already pointed out it’s not a lateral move. I’d expect that assistant coaches in the Big 10 make more $$ than WCC assistants. And becoming a head coach somewhere in the future is likely enhanced by serving as a Big Ten assistant. As far as Goodman’s first departure from OSU, what’s not to understand about playing college basket for four seasons and then being drafted into the WNBA? She did afterall, make an WNBA roster, and is rightfully called a former WNBA player (albeit for just 3 minutes: 1 assist, 1 foul). As I stated; if she’s making significantly more money, I get it. It IS a lateral move task wise. No?
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Post by larbeav on Jun 6, 2024 8:59:32 GMT -8
I love Aleah, but yes, she could have stuck around another year at a time when the Beavs could have really used her to keep the program rolling, and now, when the program needs a lift, she is leaving again. It hurts, even though I understand this is a good move for her career. What all the players have done, and now Aleah, is probably what they think is best for them, so I get it, but I would love to see players and coaches that love the Beaver program enough that they want to stick around "through sickness and health". Apparently, that's just unrealistic thinking on my part. Hopefully Aleah will come back some day. What the departures of all of these WBB players and coaches is teaching me is how I view OSU and how these folks view OSU are quite different. I don't know that these players really associate with the school the way a "normal" student/alum/fan does. They have their own social circle consisting of their teammates, and life on the road means they are likely even in class and on campus less that the "normal" student. And now they will simply be paid employees, crafting the best NIL and revenue share deal in exchange for wearing the institution's jersey for a season. And revisit every season. SR was content at Linfield, probably content at OSU regardless of conference affiliation. Clearly most of his players were not, and some of his assistants as well. Aleah is very young in her career, and I don't begrudge her being ambitious and wanting to coach athletes at the highest level. I wish her well, but I don't wish the school she is going to well (the consequence of having had a "normal" OSU student experience, I don't like uw very much). It's going to take us a couple of years to find our "new normal" - there is still much uncertainty in the air until a new Pac-12 is formed or WCC/MWC conferences are embraced - and I am steeling myself for a couple of years of tumult and upheaval in the player and coaching ranks until we find that new normal. I just hope Aleah doesn't find some "diamond in the rough" to cherry pick from our team, new recruits or recruiting backlog to take to Duke, I mean, uw, with her....... Go Beavers! " SR was content at Linfield"? Do you mean George Fox?
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 6, 2024 9:00:31 GMT -8
As already pointed out it’s not a lateral move. I’d expect that assistant coaches in the Big 10 make more $$ than WCC assistants. And becoming a head coach somewhere in the future is likely enhanced by serving as a Big Ten assistant. As far as Goodman’s first departure from OSU, what’s not to understand about playing college basket for four seasons and then being drafted into the WNBA? She did afterall, make an WNBA roster, and is rightfully called a former WNBA player (albeit for just 3 minutes: 1 assist, 1 foul). As I stated; if she’s making significantly more money, I get it. It IS a lateral move task wise. No? Are you intentionally being obtuse? NO. This isn't considered a lateral move at all. In fact, most people are OK taking a step BACK task wise to take a step UP in competition level. There are no indications Goodman is doing that. The fact is that at this particular time the 4 Power Conferences left are a step up the ladder from the G(whatever the current # of conferences is)...which is currently OSU's plight.
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Post by beav74 on Jun 6, 2024 9:28:01 GMT -8
And look who the one coach that is showing a little loyalty?? I could say a lot more on this topic....but I won't.
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Post by brewster on Jun 6, 2024 11:03:46 GMT -8
Brenda Frese, Maryland women's basketball head coach explains this new Women's College Basketball we're in very well. (1) Got to understand how to work the Transfer Portal. (2) With a solid NIL Collective, (3) Loyalty is Old School. (4) Yes, teams need the right players, but more than that they've got to be a player in "One Year Mentality" movement. Are 8 players who left bettered themselves and careers going to NIL savvy teams.
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