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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 27, 2024 16:15:37 GMT -8
I think my initial point stands......how is he considered a dual threat QB with those stats?
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 27, 2024 16:30:53 GMT -8
I think my initial point stands......how is he considered a dual threat QB with those stats? There is a difference between the ability to do a thing and what a player did as a high school prospect and how he was projected and what he actually did when in college. He didn't run all that much. Idaho didn't have that super heavy of an option offense on the full spectrum of option offenses, it was more of a just a passing spread. he only had 5 or 6 true actual rushes a game. Just because he didn't doesn't mean he can't is the point. It also doesn't mean he will here either. He isn't very big. QB running is a weapon and teams like to use it, but for sure coaches get nervous about it. |
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Post by irimi on Aug 27, 2024 16:36:24 GMT -8
Darth Vader ultimately joined the rebellion in the end. Deathbed confession. A life of evil, then he sees the light. Ugh. I will always think it's BS. And it undermines the character. He was a fabulous evil character! |
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Post by irimi on Aug 27, 2024 16:41:12 GMT -8
I think my initial point stands......how is he considered a dual threat QB with those stats? On the one hand, Idaho may not have had the personnel or the game plan to support his running efforts. We might. I don't know.
On the other hand, if you're referring to your post about his small frame, he can bulk up...or just not get caught. Maybe slide a lot.
But yeah, if he's successful as a passer and a runner, then I suspect opponents (looking at you, 'ucks) might try to injure him.
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 27, 2024 17:02:40 GMT -8
Kyler Murray was all of 5 10 and 185 lbs while at Oklahoma. Not saying he is kyler Murray but has similar size as mccoy. And Murray ran pretty well against better competition than mccoy will see.
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Post by justheretoread on Aug 27, 2024 17:35:09 GMT -8
I certainly could be misinterpreting statements from the coaches, but I’m assuming that his “mobility” is perhaps valued more than his north/south running. The ability to escape/stretch plays by evading a rush…rolling out of pocket…creativity in extending plays when things break down…thats what I’m hoping for moreso than having him as an RPO threat.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 27, 2024 17:44:43 GMT -8
I'm seeing anywhere between o 6'0 and 6'2 on McCoy's height. The weight is pretty consistent from what I've seen so far. 6'2 and 185 was about Matt Moore's size when he got here from what I recall. Ended up putting on about an inch and 25 pounds eventually. Not that it mean's McCoy will be great and a Pro, but Moore got pretty beat up his first season here... 58 percent, 11 TDs and 19 Ints (by the way, how do those compare to DJU's stats? Moore had been with the Beavers 20/21 months before his first game in 2006). Matt Moore was 6'4" 191 lbs., when he got to Corvallis. Moore ran 219 lbs. in the NFL. Moore enrolled Winter Term 2005, so he had been at Oregon State about eight months before his first start in 2005. And Moore had been at Oregon State about 20 months before his first start in 2006. DJU had a lower completion rate, 57%. But 21 touchdowns to 7 interceptions. And DJU had six additional rushing touchdowns and no fumbles. 27 touchdowns to 7 interceptions. DJU had the five-touchdown game against Cal, the seventh Oregon State quarterback with a 5+ touchdown game. Moore never had a 5+ touchdown game. Most touchdowns in a season: 1. Sean Mannion 2013 37
2. Derek Anderson 2004 29
3. Jake Luton 2019 28
4. Derek Anderson 2002 & 2003 25
6. DJ Uiagalelei 2023 21
6. Sean Canfield 2009 21
According to the media guide, highest average yards per play:
1. Terry Baker (1960-62) 6.61 (753 plays, 4,979 yards)
However, in actuality, the media guide is almost always riddled with misstatements, and this is one, because
1. DJ Uiagalelei (2023) 7.50 (248 plays, 2,857 yards)
2. Terry Baker (1960-62) 6.61 (753 plays, 4,979 yards)
My bad on the year he started, read his bio wrong. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 27, 2024 20:04:49 GMT -8
Kyler Murray was all of 5 10 and 185 lbs while at Oklahoma. Not saying he is kyler Murray but has similar size as mccoy. And Murray ran pretty well against better competition than mccoy will see. Bad comparison.....Murray is an elite athlete. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 27, 2024 21:27:15 GMT -8
Darth Vader ultimately joined the rebellion in the end. Deathbed confession. A life of evil, then he sees the light. Ugh. I will always think it's BS. And it undermines the character. He was a fabulous evil character! Fictional redemption arcs are almost never good, especially in the standard two-hour movie time period. Condemnation and failed redemption arcs tend to be more entertaining. However: Vader was a great evil character. But I think that it is a great ending to both the three-episode and six-episode arcs. He only joined the dark side to foolishly try and save his wife. Luke spared his life, when Luke could have killed him and had every reason to. The Emperor had proven himself beyond evil. And his own flesh and blood needed him to survive. Plus, I do not know what really pushed Vader to keep going in his condition. You have little to lose to give your own son a chance at a great life. I don't care what kind of soulless monster you are. You have to do what you can to off the emperor in that situation. There were a lot worse things to focus on in the three-episode and, particularly, the six-episode arcs. (And even more to focus on in the mostly forgettable last three movies.) |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 27, 2024 21:33:54 GMT -8
I think my initial point stands......how is he considered a dual threat QB with those stats? 59 carries for 362 yards, 6.1 ypc. Two touchdowns. Those are not terrible numbers. |
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Post by grayman on Aug 27, 2024 21:39:45 GMT -8
McCoy is listed as 6-0, 182 on the depth chart, so my guess is he's not 6-2 or even close to it.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 27, 2024 22:37:04 GMT -8
McCoy is listed as 6-0, 182 on the depth chart, so my guess is he's not 6-2 or even close to it.  |
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Post by kersting13 on Aug 27, 2024 22:45:55 GMT -8
Deathbed confession. A life of evil, then he sees the light. Ugh. I will always think it's BS. And it undermines the character. He was a fabulous evil character! Fictional redemption arcs are almost never good, especially in the standard two-hour movie time period. Condemnation and failed redemption arcs tend to be more entertaining. However: Vader was a great evil character. But I think that it is a great ending to both the three-episode and six-episode arcs. He only joined the dark side to foolishly try and save his wife. Luke spared his life, when Luke could have killed him and had every reason to. The Emperor had proven himself beyond evil. And his own flesh and blood needed him to survive. Plus, I do not know what really pushed Vader to keep going in his condition. You have little to lose to give your own son a chance at a great life. I don't care what kind of soulless monster you are. You have to do what you can to off the emperor in that situation. There were a lot worse things to focus on in the three-episode and, particularly, the six-episode arcs. (And even more to focus on in the mostly forgettable last three movies.) I don't have a problem with Vader coming clean in RoTJ. It was the final win for Luke. I did foolishly think that Eps I-III would have Anakin turn in Ep II and spend Ep III as Vader hunting and killing Jedi, not just massacre a grade school classroom. Oh well. it was still better than what we got in VII-IX. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 27, 2024 22:52:01 GMT -8
McCoy is listed as 6-0, 182 on the depth chart, so my guess is he's not 6-2 or even close to it. The height/weight exaggeration is just absurd. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 27, 2024 23:18:49 GMT -8
Fictional redemption arcs are almost never good, especially in the standard two-hour movie time period. Condemnation and failed redemption arcs tend to be more entertaining. However: Vader was a great evil character. But I think that it is a great ending to both the three-episode and six-episode arcs. He only joined the dark side to foolishly try and save his wife. Luke spared his life, when Luke could have killed him and had every reason to. The Emperor had proven himself beyond evil. And his own flesh and blood needed him to survive. Plus, I do not know what really pushed Vader to keep going in his condition. You have little to lose to give your own son a chance at a great life. I don't care what kind of soulless monster you are. You have to do what you can to off the emperor in that situation. There were a lot worse things to focus on in the three-episode and, particularly, the six-episode arcs. (And even more to focus on in the mostly forgettable last three movies.) I don't have a problem with Vader coming clean in RoTJ. It was the final win for Luke. I did foolishly think that Eps I-III would have Anakin turn in Ep II and spend Ep III as Vader hunting and killing Jedi, not just massacre a grade school classroom. Oh well. it was still better than what we got in VII-IX. Take it to the Steelers thread guys. |
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