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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 28, 2017 15:02:52 GMT -8
You are... nice come back. When you have little knowledge those moronic comebacks are classics! Classic, really shows how little you know... Again you post zero info... none. On the other thread, same BS. Just wild uneducated speculation you make up. Keep it up... throw enough of your s%#t against the wall some will stick. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 15:09:39 GMT -8
Uh, no he wasn't. Swinney was NOT coordinator before he got the job. His first act as interim coach was to fire the Offensive Coordinator. You are correct that he had more years of coaching experience but are incorrect on virtually everything else you claimed. It was very controversial when he got the job over 2 other assistants who had been head coaches and many people didn't think he should have gotten the permanent job. It was a very unpopular hire. Your history of Swinney is incorrect. I think the argument is that spending 6 years playing in the NFL is equal to years coaching a position at the college level. And I think that is a fair argument, every player in the NFL does many of the things position coaches in college do on a daily basis. Wrong... on "virtually everything else"... about? What a clueless post. If you didn't know just look it up. Bama '93-95 GA, '96 WR/TE, '97 TE, '98-00 WR Clemson'03-06 WR/recruiting coord., '07-08 WR/assoc HC, '08 OC/interim HC As far as the OC... timing is correct on your part. My point is he was one... and comparing Hall to Dabo is apples to figs. Who said anything about controversy or not. Was never the point... ANYWHERE in this thread. Nor is controversy at Clemson any issue in coaching credentials. I did look it up, which is why I called you out for your wrong information. He got the job without being a coordinator. The only thing you were right about was how many years he had been a coach (again because I did look that up and FYI even on that you were wrong in claiming 8 years at Clemson), everything else you claimed (he was a HC in waiting for instance which implies it wasn't a controversial hire hence me bringing that up) was made up by you. Sorry, I am far from clueless and I know you know you were wrong but don't want to admit it since all you have is insults now. Your point is he "was one"? That is comedy, Hall could call himself Defensive Coordinator tomorrow if he wanted too; would that suddenly make him more credible in your eyes? Because that is what Swinney did, he made himself OC. I'll wait for more insults from you since you its all you got.
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Post by ostate on Oct 28, 2017 15:15:13 GMT -8
Wrong... on "virtually everything else"... about? What a clueless post. If you didn't know just look it up. Bama '93-95 GA, '96 WR/TE, '97 TE, '98-00 WR Clemson'03-06 WR/recruiting coord., '07-08 WR/assoc HC, '08 OC/interim HC As far as the OC... timing is correct on your part. My point is he was one... and comparing Hall to Dabo is apples to figs. Who said anything about controversy or not. Was never the point... ANYWHERE in this thread. Nor is controversy at Clemson any issue in coaching credentials. I did look it up, which is why I called you out for your wrong information. He got the job without being a coordinator. The only thing you were right about was how many years he had been a coach (again because I did look that up and FYI even on that you were wrong in claiming 8 years at Clemson), everything else you claimed (he was a HC in waiting for instance which implies it wasn't a controversial hire hence me bringing that up) was made up by you. Sorry, I am far from clueless and I know you know you were wrong but don't want to admit it since all you have is insults now. Your point is he "was one"? That is comedy, Hall could call himself Defensive Coordinator tomorrow if he wanted too; would that suddenly make him more credible in your eyes? Because that is what Swinney did, he made himself OC. I'll wait for more insults from you since you its all you got. Too funny, too bad -1111 has to revert to name calling when he's wrong...
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 28, 2017 15:22:01 GMT -8
Wrong... on "virtually everything else"... about? What a clueless post. If you didn't know just look it up. Bama '93-95 GA, '96 WR/TE, '97 TE, '98-00 WR Clemson'03-06 WR/recruiting coord., '07-08 WR/assoc HC, '08 OC/interim HC As far as the OC... timing is correct on your part. My point is he was one... and comparing Hall to Dabo is apples to figs. Who said anything about controversy or not. Was never the point... ANYWHERE in this thread. Nor is controversy at Clemson any issue in coaching credentials. I did look it up, which is why I called you out for your wrong information. He got the job without being a coordinator. The only thing you were right about was how many years he had been a coach (again because I did look that up and FYI even on that you were wrong in claiming 8 years at Clemson), everything else you claimed (he was a HC in waiting for instance which implies it wasn't a controversial hire hence me bringing that up) was made up by you. Sorry, I am far from clueless and I know you know you were wrong but don't want to admit it since all you have is insults now. Your point is he "was one"? That is comedy, Hall could call himself Defensive Coordinator tomorrow if he wanted too; would that suddenly make him more credible in your eyes? Because that is what Swinney did, he made himself OC. I'll wait for more insults from you since you its all you got. As I said... the OC info meant to show he was the guy calling the plays. Hall calls nothing. And you can get as picky as you'd like, but you know the point was made... Original post replied to, "Dabo Swinney... Actually, since Hall had time in the NFL, I would give the edge of experience to Hall..." So... my info is a little off (not bad for not looking it up until your little tantrum) but meaning stands! And... 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.. yep 6 years. My bad. Coach in waiting? Pretty sure I said he was a known asst and expected to be a HC... not necessarily at Clemson. Go ahead... go back a re-read! 😉 But that could be your comprehension level when trying to nit pick and argue. So... the point stands, Dabo was a viable candidate. Hall is not... for any D1 HC job... yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 15:26:31 GMT -8
I did look it up, which is why I called you out for your wrong information. He got the job without being a coordinator. The only thing you were right about was how many years he had been a coach (again because I did look that up and FYI even on that you were wrong in claiming 8 years at Clemson), everything else you claimed (he was a HC in waiting for instance which implies it wasn't a controversial hire hence me bringing that up) was made up by you. Sorry, I am far from clueless and I know you know you were wrong but don't want to admit it since all you have is insults now. Your point is he "was one"? That is comedy, Hall could call himself Defensive Coordinator tomorrow if he wanted too; would that suddenly make him more credible in your eyes? Because that is what Swinney did, he made himself OC. I'll wait for more insults from you since you its all you got. As I said... the OC info meant to show he was the guy calling the plays. Hall calls nothing. And you can get as picky as you'd like, but you know the point was made... and 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.. yep 6 years. My bad. Coach in waiting? Pretty sure I said he was a known asst and expected to be a HC... not necessarily at Clemson. But that'd be your comprehension level when trying to nit pick and argue. So... the point stands, Dabo was a viable candidate. Hall is not... for any D1 HC job... yet. You just can't admit it when you are wrong can you? You said he was OC "before" being named interim coach, that was false. He was NOT calling the plays until he became HC and decided to name himself that. Again, Hall could do that tomorrow if he wanted too. How do you know Hall isn't calling defensive plays now? Many HC call plays while also having a coordinator. Its quite common. I guarantee Hall is giving his input on both offense and defense, he doesn't seem like the hands off type. I read what you said about him being "expected to be a HC" and you remain wrong. He was not a hot commodity at the time Clemson elevated him. He made himself a hot commodity AFTER Clemson gave him the interim job, not before. Again, its okay to admit when you are wrong. Dabo was no more viable at the time Clemson made him HC than Hall is now. You are simply making things up because you can't admit you were wrong. And sorry but its not being "picky" to expect someone to actually support their arguments with facts, you seem to prefer insults to facts. Its one way to go I guess.
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Post by ostate on Oct 28, 2017 15:27:03 GMT -8
I did look it up, which is why I called you out for your wrong information. He got the job without being a coordinator. The only thing you were right about was how many years he had been a coach (again because I did look that up and FYI even on that you were wrong in claiming 8 years at Clemson), everything else you claimed (he was a HC in waiting for instance which implies it wasn't a controversial hire hence me bringing that up) was made up by you. Sorry, I am far from clueless and I know you know you were wrong but don't want to admit it since all you have is insults now. Your point is he "was one"? That is comedy, Hall could call himself Defensive Coordinator tomorrow if he wanted too; would that suddenly make him more credible in your eyes? Because that is what Swinney did, he made himself OC. I'll wait for more insults from you since you its all you got. As I said... the OC info meant to show he was the guy calling the plays. Hall calls nothing. And you can get as picky as you'd like, but you know the point was made... and 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.. yep 6 years. My bad. Coach in waiting? Pretty sure I said he was a known asst and expected to be a HC... not necessarily at Clemson. But that'd be your comprehension level when trying to nit pick and argue. So... the point stands, Dabo was a viable candidate. Hall is not... for any D1 HC job... yet. Can you not even read? This is how he became an OC: Swinney's first actions as interim head coach were to fire offensive coordinator Rob Spence
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 28, 2017 15:33:06 GMT -8
As I said... the OC info meant to show he was the guy calling the plays. Hall calls nothing. And you can get as picky as you'd like, but you know the point was made... and 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.. yep 6 years. My bad. Coach in waiting? Pretty sure I said he was a known asst and expected to be a HC... not necessarily at Clemson. But that'd be your comprehension level when trying to nit pick and argue. So... the point stands, Dabo was a viable candidate. Hall is not... for any D1 HC job... yet. Can you not even read? This is how he became an OC: Swinney's first actions as interim head coach were to fire offensive coordinator Rob Spence And did he call the offense? Yep. Hall has said on several occasions ge calls nothing. He gives input. Not the same. I'll let the future answer you and your butt buddy's knowledge level. We'll see how many D1 HC interviews Coach Hall gets. In fact, how many DC offers. Our AD gave a succinct, politically correct reply when asked... right guy for this time, THIS situation.
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Post by ostate on Oct 28, 2017 15:39:43 GMT -8
And did he call the offense? Yep. Hall has said on several occasions ge calls nothing. He gives input. Not the same. I'll let the future answer you and your butt buddy's knowledge level. We'll see how many D1 HC interviews Coach Hall gets. In fact, how many DC offers. Our AD gave a succinct, politically correct reply when asked... right guy for this time, THIS situation. Absolutely hilarious! Again, Dabo was not an OC, nor was he ever was an OC before he became the HC of Clemson... that is a fact... you are wrong and your ignorance is absolutely hilarious!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 15:41:22 GMT -8
And did he call the offense? Yep. Hall has said on several occasions ge calls nothing. He gives input. Not the same. I'll let the future answer you and your butt buddy's knowledge level. We'll see how many D1 HC interviews Coach Hall gets. In fact, how many DC offers. Our AD gave a succinct, politically correct reply when asked... right guy for this time, THIS situation. Yes, he called the offense AFTER being names HC, not before (again which is what you CLAIMED). And for the record, I am not claiming Hall should be HC, just calling you out for making stuff up and than when you get called out becoming a whiney baby and resorting to nothing but insults. Of course the butt buddy insult implies you have the maturity level of the average 12 year old so I guess you can't help it.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 28, 2017 15:56:15 GMT -8
And did he call the offense? Yep. Hall has said on several occasions ge calls nothing. He gives input. Not the same. I'll let the future answer you and your butt buddy's knowledge level. We'll see how many D1 HC interviews Coach Hall gets. In fact, how many DC offers. Our AD gave a succinct, politically correct reply when asked... right guy for this time, THIS situation. Absolutely hilarious! Again, Dabo was not an OC, nor was he ever was an OC before he became the HC of Clemson... that is a fact... you are wrong and your ignorance is absolutely hilarious! Thanks for making the watch of Utah trying to lose more fun. So... are you like 12 and the "onions" habe not dropped yet? We pretty much have the OC time table determined and I said as much. Hence, goes back to you wanting to argue and/ or your reading comprehension. Next... he WAS the OC the last half of that season after he fired the OC when taking over. He did not give himself a title, he called the plays. Next... back to the original post concerning Hall vs Dabo's experience, with Hall having the advantage... NOPE! Lastly... you're now boring. Play time with the youth (benefit of the doubt cuz the other option had to do with frontal cortex issues). Which means you get the last word. Maybe something more in your level... Tag... your it. And, to be proactive... Same to you, but more of it! Lol 🤣 You're right, I'm hilarious...
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Oct 28, 2017 16:02:10 GMT -8
Post by ostate on Oct 28, 2017 16:02:10 GMT -8
Absolutely hilarious! Again, Dabo was not an OC, nor was he ever was an OC before he became the HC of Clemson... that is a fact... you are wrong and your ignorance is absolutely hilarious! Thanks for making the watch of Utah trying to lose more fun. So... are you like 12 and the "onions" habe not dropped yet? We pretty much have the OC time table determined and I said as much. Hence, goes back to you wanting to argue and/ or your reading comprehension. Next... he WAS the OC the last half of that season after he fired the OC when taking over. He did not give himself a title, he called the plays. Next... back to the original post concerning Hall vs Dabo's experience, with Hall having the advantage... NOPE! Lastly... you're now boring. Play time with the youth (benefit of the doubt cuz the other option had to do with frontal cortex issues). Which means you get the last word. Maybe something more in your level... Tag... your it. And, to be proactive... Same to you, but more of it! Lol 🤣 You're right, I'm hilarious... lol
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 28, 2017 16:50:43 GMT -8
Does anybody know if Dabo Swinney was ever an offensive or defensive coordinator?
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Post by snohobeav on Oct 28, 2017 18:39:36 GMT -8
I'm trying to remember the last "interim" coach who took over a program and actually did well. I recall the WVA guy who coached a win in their bowl game and was retained. That action was roundly criticized. Helton seemed like a bad idea for a team with the cachet of USC. I'm sure it has worked out somewhere, but I'm not recalling it. Dabo Swinney has worked out for Clemson. And the parallel's are fairly similar, He'd never been more than a position coach prior to taking over. Dabo was assistant HC/WR coach before being interim HC en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabo_Swinney
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Post by gobeavs92 on Oct 28, 2017 18:47:22 GMT -8
Dabo Swinney has worked out for Clemson. And the parallel's are fairly similar, He'd never been more than a position coach prior to taking over. Dani was assistant HC/WR coach before being interim HC en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabo_SwinneyA different situation. Sweeney served as an assistant for several seasons at Alabama, then at Clemson was the Asst. HC the year before he was the interim. Hall started in '14 as a grad asst. at Wisky. Not similar at all IMO. Go Beavs!
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Post by snohobeav on Oct 28, 2017 18:53:29 GMT -8
A different situation. Sweeney served as an assistant for several seasons at Alabama, then at Clemson was the Asst. HC the year before he was the interim. Hall started in '14 as a grad asst. at Wisky. Not similar at all IMO. Go Beavs! That was my point. Dabo didn't go straight from position coach to head coach.
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