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Post by orangethunder on Oct 27, 2017 6:39:49 GMT -8
I say give Hall a year contract , see what he does in the off season as far as recruiting , etc . This Beaver team believes in him and he believes in them something that I think if truth were known , Gary never had , possibly from the start . I know he doesn't have experience as a coach but as I used to tell my dad when he would tell me that no one would hire me without experience for a specific job, how does one get experience without getting a start ? There is something special about coach Hall and there is something special about this team . Give Coach Hall a chance www.oregonlive.com/collegefootball/index.ssf/2017/10/goe_stanford_won_the_game_but.html#incart_river_home |
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Post by NativeBeav on Oct 27, 2017 7:16:52 GMT -8
It's hard not to argue with the sentiment. I was at the game last night, even with roughly half the seats empty, the students/ fans that were there, the noise and energy was something I haven't heard since the civil war last year. The defense played lights out. Even Steve Preece on the way home listening on the radio said he thought it was the best defensive performance he had seen in several years. THIS while we have something like 6 linemen out due to injury, and we are playing some of our second string players. Held Furd to 9 points until the last 30 seconds. Incredible, with or without Love. The offense is still the weak link, but they did have some flashes, and it would be nearly impossible to replace Garretson on a dime with Seth Collins out due to Mono. GA chased away our other legit and ready QB options. I like Cory Hall - if he finishes out the season with a couple more wins, continues to get the best out of his current players, he definitely has earned the right to a one year contract. Otherwise, we would be acting like a certain former HC in how he treated 3M  |
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Post by COBeav on Oct 27, 2017 8:31:27 GMT -8
One year contract ..... if I'm a recruit, I'm not coming for a coach with a 1-year contract. That is a tremendous "sell job" I doubt you can make to kids.
Heck, even Riley was extended so he had 4 years. It's about recruiting.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Oct 27, 2017 8:37:39 GMT -8
An if you keep hall what do you do with the coordinators? Last i heard they were on the chopping block. Does Hall have enough gravitas to go out and get a "good one" ....for a one year deal? Ummm, no
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Post by orangeattack on Oct 27, 2017 8:47:29 GMT -8
I like Coach Hall. I like his energy, like seeing the way the guys interact with him - especially after hearing some of the comments leaking out of the program by current players about feeling discouraged, or feeling like no matter what they did, they were going to get yelled at. You can't play a good game with that kind of thing in your head, in your heart.
Crazier things have happened than to take a former NFL player and make him a head coach in relatively short order. The comments during the game last night about it feeling like watching an NFL game resonated well with me. I'd prefer to see him be a defensive coordinator/assistant head coach with the Coach In Waiting tag though. Ask him to bring in a mentor that he respects with an established network to draw from to assemble a staff, but I'm not sure if that's a remotely realistic scenario.
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Post by steinlager on Oct 27, 2017 9:12:50 GMT -8
He is nailing the job interview so far. Road games will be interesting. Home crowd emotion may have been a factor. I am definitely a Hall fan from what I've seen out of the team these past two weeks.
Andersen kept saying the Beavs were close. I guess he was right.
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Post by beaverdude on Oct 27, 2017 9:25:18 GMT -8
Worst case scenario: If they don't hire Hall as the next head coach then the incoming coach would be wise to add him to his staff.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 27, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -8
An if you keep hall what do you do with the coordinators? Last i heard they were on the chopping block. Does Hall have enough gravitas to go out and get a "good one" ....for a one year deal? Ummm, no And, no "good one" is coming with the HC on a one year. It's funny to me that Hall is truly a candidate to some on this board. And, to some who thought GA's cred was bad! You take him already here being here, on a lame duck staff, out of it I could not imagine any of the same people promoting another equally inexperienced coach. It's also equally puzzling to read posts from those ardent GA supporters that have given all the excuses and poo poo'd that GA had locker room problems and that 4-5 tweets showed how much the players loved him. Excitement, playing harder is what is supposed to happen. It didn't sell tix! It won't sell the type of recruits we need to land. Just because it was stifled under GA doesn't make Coach Hall a HC because players and coaches are now "free balling". It means the players have a bit of swagger back that was "beaten" out of them... As, I've stated... kudos to Coach/assts in this tough situation, but NO ONE on this staff is HC material. Nor should/ will any be kept... except maybe Hall. His situation might be similar to Brennan's... keep a good young coach with ties to the players to begin building a bond with the new staff. But... looking at just the complaints (and fully justified...) registered here, if any of the coordinators are retained we should be very worried about the new HC. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 27, 2017 9:35:11 GMT -8
I like Coach Hall. I like his energy, like seeing the way the guys interact with him - especially after hearing some of the comments leaking out of the program by current players about feeling discouraged, or feeling like no matter what they did, they were going to get yelled at. You can't play a good game with that kind of thing in your head, in your heart. Crazier things have happened than to take a former NFL player and make him a head coach in relatively short order. The comments during the game last night about it feeling like watching an NFL game resonated well with me. I'd prefer to see him be a defensive coordinator/assistant head coach with the Coach In Waiting tag though. Ask him to bring in a mentor that he respects with an established network to draw from to assemble a staff, but I'm not sure if that's a remotely realistic scenario. Name one D1/P5 HC hire with Hall's inexperience level? |
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Post by orangethunder on Oct 27, 2017 9:50:32 GMT -8
An if you keep hall what do you do with the coordinators? Last i heard they were on the chopping block. Does Hall have enough gravitas to go out and get a "good one" ....for a one year deal? Ummm, no Ok, so it is looking like maybe the problem was more Andersen than the other coaches because look at how much they haven't " sucked " the last two games and yes , a one year contract really isn't realistic so I say give him a four year contract |
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 27, 2017 9:55:03 GMT -8
I like Coach Hall. I like his energy, like seeing the way the guys interact with him - especially after hearing some of the comments leaking out of the program by current players about feeling discouraged, or feeling like no matter what they did, they were going to get yelled at. You can't play a good game with that kind of thing in your head, in your heart. Crazier things have happened than to take a former NFL player and make him a head coach in relatively short order. The comments during the game last night about it feeling like watching an NFL game resonated well with me. I'd prefer to see him be a defensive coordinator/assistant head coach with the Coach In Waiting tag though. Ask him to bring in a mentor that he respects with an established network to draw from to assemble a staff, but I'm not sure if that's a remotely realistic scenario. Name one D1/P5 HC hire with Hall's inexperience level? It's not realistic to think that Cory Hall could be our next HC. I'm not going to say he won't/can't/couldn't be an HC some day, or that he isn't doing a good job in the current situation, all-things-considered, but even his promotion to interim HC is kind of a head-scratcher. The AD isn't going to put a guy with so little experience in the most important job of an organization with a budget of tens of millions of dollars a year. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 27, 2017 10:04:11 GMT -8
Name one D1/P5 HC hire with Hall's inexperience level? It's not realistic to think that Cory Hall could be our next HC. I'm not going to say he won't/can't/couldn't be an HC some day, or that he isn't doing a good job in the current situation, all-things-considered, but even his promotion to interim HC is kind of a head-scratcher. The AD isn't going to put a guy with so little experience in the most important job of an organization with a budget of tens of millions of dollars a year. Joe Kapp was hired as Cal's head coach in 1983. It was his first coaching job at any level. In 5 years he went 20–34–1. |
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 27, 2017 10:12:13 GMT -8
It's not realistic to think that Cory Hall could be our next HC. I'm not going to say he won't/can't/couldn't be an HC some day, or that he isn't doing a good job in the current situation, all-things-considered, but even his promotion to interim HC is kind of a head-scratcher. The AD isn't going to put a guy with so little experience in the most important job of an organization with a budget of tens of millions of dollars a year. Joe Kapp was hired as Cal's head coach in 1982. It was his first coaching job at any level. In 5 years he went 20–34–1. I recall an OSU/Cal game I attended in one of 83/84/85, where one of our sad sack OSU teams beat Cal. Maybe that was the game that got him fired. I'd say the landscape of college football is a bit different today than it was back in 1982. Lots more money on the line, and lots more scrutiny. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 27, 2017 10:13:11 GMT -8
It's not realistic to think that Cory Hall could be our next HC. I'm not going to say he won't/can't/couldn't be an HC some day, or that he isn't doing a good job in the current situation, all-things-considered, but even his promotion to interim HC is kind of a head-scratcher. The AD isn't going to put a guy with so little experience in the most important job of an organization with a budget of tens of millions of dollars a year. Joe Kapp was hired as Cal's head coach in 1982. It was his first coaching job at any level. In 5 years he went 20–34–1. Nice pull... different era or not. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Oct 27, 2017 10:15:25 GMT -8
Worst case scenario: If they don't hire Hall as the next head coach then the incoming coach would be wise to add him to his staff. That's the move I'd rather see... IMO, as much as it makes for a cool story and as much as I like his personality, I don't see how we can make him our head coach. Plus I can't see any scenario where the OC/DC stay on if Hall is the guy. You're now working for the guy who was lower than you on the totem pole a couple weeks ago. Maybe I'm way off - wouldn't be the first time - but just don't see that working out well Disclaimer: now I'm pissy as bandwagon duck fan just walked into my office and said "What a great effort! You guys have to hire that interim coach, I mean - who else would even come to Corvallis?" Yeah EFF YOU guy. Let's play name 3 current players on your defense, bandwagon boy. I'll even spot you a name or two. |
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