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Post by xman68 on Oct 31, 2017 20:47:59 GMT -8
Genius-a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect. Cory is. He has an innate ability to motivate young men, they will play harder for him than anyone else. He get's it, he gets them excited, he gets them believing in themselves. That is something a journeyman, retread, or coordinator, doesn't necessarily have, it is something you cannot buy. And it is something all great coaches have. One can learn X's and O's, one can learn game management, one can hire well qualified assistants. But one cannot just pick this skill up, which Cory is a genius at. To me that is why so many coaches are good or OK, and very few are great. And that is why I am in #Hallin. Ya... there's 100's if not 1000's of motivated, enthusiastic young coaches out there that build great relationships with student athletes. Exceptional ability? Not really. No slam on coach Hall, but they're are a more than a few who'd have had the same effect if they'd been on staff during GA's tenure and were picked as interim. You seem too forget coach Hall isn't the only one coaching. No one really knows his actually input. No one really can measure the "Hall effect" vs the "no GA effect" in both players and coaches. And to be honest I've rarely if ever heard his name brought up by staff or players until his promotion. Genius? Hardly. Making the best of a bad situation and igniting the positive emotions of normally emotional 18-22 y/o football players? Yep But, don't fool yourself. This is yummy "frosting" on a terribly prepared "cake". This team will need to be rebuilt, not just emotionally, by an experienced HC. Yes he has motivated 18-22 year olds. He also stepped in, almost mythically. GA wasn’t fired, he abandoned, this was a ship without a captain, and he grabbed the wheel. Just watch the way he handles himself on the sideline, in press conferences, he got 3 verbals in one weekend, when nobody even knows the future of the program, the ESPN announcers could not quit talking about him, his video went viral, he is the subject of a social media campaign, this thread has 10 pages. I know he is the best choice right now. If he is the right choice only time will tell, none of us know for sure. But right now he is the best choice, bar none.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 31, 2017 20:59:02 GMT -8
Ya... there's 100's if not 1000's of motivated, enthusiastic young coaches out there that build great relationships with student athletes. Exceptional ability? Not really. No slam on coach Hall, but they're are a more than a few who'd have had the same effect if they'd been on staff during GA's tenure and were picked as interim. You seem too forget coach Hall isn't the only one coaching. No one really knows his actually input. No one really can measure the "Hall effect" vs the "no GA effect" in both players and coaches. And to be honest I've rarely if ever heard his name brought up by staff or players until his promotion. Genius? Hardly. Making the best of a bad situation and igniting the positive emotions of normally emotional 18-22 y/o football players? Yep But, don't fool yourself. This is yummy "frosting" on a terribly prepared "cake". This team will need to be rebuilt, not just emotionally, by an experienced HC. Yes he has motivated 18-22 year olds. He also stepped in, almost mythically. GA wasn’t fired, he abandoned, this was a ship without a captain, and he grabbed the wheel. Just watch the way he handles himself on the sideline, in press conferences, he got 3 verbals in one weekend, when nobody even knows the future of the program, the ESPN announcers could not quit talking about him, his video went viral, he is the subject of a social media campaign, this thread has 10 pages. I know he is the best choice right now. If he is the right choice only time will tell, none of us know for sure. But right now he is the best choice, bar none. Player? Related? Lol Genius... now mythical. Exaggerate much? He got verbals from guys that we were already recruiting and as far as I cam tell OSU was their best offer. ESPN announcers, social media threads make people viable HC material? Again... lol. "Bar none"... close. As there are none... as far as known candidates. So, pretty easy to either be the best or not even in the same class depending on who is. So, what we actually DO know... there are no candidates... as far as fans know. We have no idea if the search firm has had any meaningful connections yet. And, we know Coach Hall doesn't have near the resume of any D1/P5 coach ever hired at OSU.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 31, 2017 21:11:41 GMT -8
Ya... there's 100's if not 1000's of motivated, enthusiastic young coaches out there that build great relationships with student athletes. Exceptional ability? Not really. No slam on coach Hall, but they're are a more than a few who'd have had the same effect if they'd been on staff during GA's tenure and were picked as interim. You seem too forget coach Hall isn't the only one coaching. No one really knows his actually input. No one really can measure the "Hall effect" vs the "no GA effect" in both players and coaches. And to be honest I've rarely if ever heard his name brought up by staff or players until his promotion. Genius? Hardly. Making the best of a bad situation and igniting the positive emotions of normally emotional 18-22 y/o football players? Yep But, don't fool yourself. This is yummy "frosting" on a terribly prepared "cake". This team will need to be rebuilt, not just emotionally, by an experienced HC. Yes he has motivated 18-22 year olds. He also stepped in, almost mythically. GA wasn’t fired, he abandoned, this was a ship without a captain, and he grabbed the wheel. Just watch the way he handles himself on the sideline, in press conferences, he got 3 verbals in one weekend, when nobody even knows the future of the program, the ESPN announcers could not quit talking about him, his video went viral, he is the subject of a social media campaign, this thread has 10 pages. I know he is the best choice right now. If he is the right choice only time will tell, none of us know for sure. But right now he is the best choice, bar none. "right now he is the best choice, bar none"? What does that even mean? He is the choice for interim coach, and he's done well so far. Other than having some darned good motivational skills what has he shown us?
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Post by ag87 on Oct 31, 2017 21:41:14 GMT -8
"right now he is the best choice, bar none"? What does that even mean? I think it means something like this, "the greatest amount of people to ever watch an inauguration, period!"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 7:54:10 GMT -8
I get the feeling that even if we lose the rest of our games and someone else is hired as head coach, that Coach Hall will still be next years 3M. You know, the "We'd be so much better with 3M under center" posts. Next year everything will be "Coach Hall wouldn't have done that" or "remember how we lost by fewer points to opponent X under Hall?"
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 1, 2017 8:34:50 GMT -8
I get the feeling that even if we lose the rest of our games and someone else is hired as head coach, that Coach Hall will still be next years 3M. You know, the "We'd be so much better with 3M under center" posts. Next year everything will be "Coach Hall wouldn't have done that" or "remember how we lost by fewer points to opponent X under Hall?" except that 3M actually had the resume of a D-I starting QB, that Hall does not have for a D-I HC. If Hall gets picked up as an HC by a MWC team and does well, the argument will have merit.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 1, 2017 8:44:32 GMT -8
I get the feeling that even if we lose the rest of our games and someone else is hired as head coach, that Coach Hall will still be next years 3M. You know, the "We'd be so much better with 3M under center" posts. Next year everything will be "Coach Hall wouldn't have done that" or "remember how we lost by fewer points to opponent X under Hall?" except that 3M actually had the resume of a D-I starting QB, that Hall does not have for a D-I HC. If Hall gets picked up as an HC by a MWC team and does well, the argument will have merit. 3M was something like 2-6 as a starter. That's quite a D-1 resume.....
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 1, 2017 9:36:03 GMT -8
except that 3M actually had the resume of a D-I starting QB, that Hall does not have for a D-I HC. If Hall gets picked up as an HC by a MWC team and does well, the argument will have merit. 3M was something like 2-6 as a starter. That's quite a D-1 resume..... LOL... like Hall has a D1 resume... he's not even a "journeyman" assistant. He's been a paid assistant for 2+ years. #M been a college QB longer than Hall has been a college coach. The 3M to Hall comparison was about "what ifs", not their resume. But, if so, 3M has a better resume for his "job" than Hall for a D1/P5 HC job... 2006 WSU GA 2007 ? not coaching 2008-11 HS asst 2011-13 HS HC 2014 Wisky GA 2015 Weber St DBs 2016-pres OSU CB/interim HC
Present that info about ANY other potential candidate and every one on this board would laugh it off.
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 1, 2017 9:57:28 GMT -8
except that 3M actually had the resume of a D-I starting QB, that Hall does not have for a D-I HC. If Hall gets picked up as an HC by a MWC team and does well, the argument will have merit. 3M was something like 2-6 as a starter. That's quite a D-1 resume..... Best single-game passer rating by a QB vs a P-5 team in the past 5+ years is a nice item to highlight on your resume. 3M was 2-5 as a starter. 2-3 when he actually had more than a week of practice as the #1. And again, it's not as much that 3M was some sort of QB Messiah. It's that he was in a "competition" and apparently lost it to a QB who has started 9 straight games without throwing a TD pass. If we get the equivalent productions from our next HC, I'll be the first one on board crying for Cory Hall.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 1, 2017 10:04:05 GMT -8
3M was something like 2-6 as a starter. That's quite a D-1 resume..... LOL... like Hall has a D1 resume... he's not even a "journeyman" assistant. He's been a paid assistant for 2+ years. #M been a college QB longer than Hall has been a college coach. The 3M to Hall comparison was about "what ifs", not their resume. But, if so, 3M has a better resume for his "job" than Hall for a D1/P5 HC job... 2006 WSU GA 2007 ? not coaching 2008-11 HS asst 2011-13 HS HC 2014 Wisky GA 2015 Weber St DBs 2016-pres OSU CB/interim HC
Present that info about ANY other potential candidate and every one on this board would laugh it off. Where did I say that Hall has a D1 resume? I didn't, so you can "LOL" all you want, but both of their resumes technically suck.
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