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Post by orangethunder on Dec 21, 2017 20:29:20 GMT -8
By Sean Meagher smeagher@oregonian.com
The Oregonian/OregonLive
Could Gary Andersen could be back on the sideline soon?
The former Oregon State coach is reportedly under strong consideration to join Sonny Dykes' staff at SMU as defensive coordinator, according to a report Thursday from FootballScoop.com.
Andersen unexpectedly left Oregon State in October as the two sides agreed to mutually part ways after two-plus seasons and a 7-23 record in Corvallis.
A former head coach at Utah State (2009-12) and Wisconsin (2013-14), Andersen previously served as defensive coordinator at Utah from 2005-08. Utah coach Kyle Whittingham recently flirted with the idea of Andersen potentially returning to the Utes' staff.
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Post by korculabeav on Dec 21, 2017 20:46:33 GMT -8
Hopefully the AD there sees GA’s track record of running from tough situations and other insanities and does not hire him.
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Post by angrybeaver67 on Dec 21, 2017 21:00:11 GMT -8
I don’t begrudge him of getting another job. He’s got to do something... Certainly I share some sentiments about his job performance here, but he could have drug this thing out and really stuck it to us (pay, etc.). Gary probably is a decent guy and realized he totally screwed the pooch here as head coach, no real way to fix the situation, and didn’t want it to continue... What do you do...? Hopefully make better choices at the start...but he didn’t.
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Post by greshambeaver on Dec 21, 2017 21:04:14 GMT -8
I don’t begrudge him of getting another job. He’s got to do something... Certainly I share some sentiments about his job performance here, but he could have drug this thing out and really stuck it to us (pay, etc.). Gary probably is a decent guy and realized he totally screwed the pooch here as head coach, no real way to fix the situation, and didn’t want it to continue... What do you do...? Hopefully make better choices at the start...but he didn’t. Exactly... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 21, 2017 22:12:38 GMT -8
I don’t begrudge him of getting another job. He’s got to do something... Certainly I share some sentiments about his job performance here, but he could have drug this thing out and really stuck it to us (pay, etc.). Gary probably is a decent guy and realized he totally screwed the pooch here as head coach, no real way to fix the situation, and didn’t want it to continue... What do you do...? Hopefully make better choices at the start...but he didn’t. And... schedule SMU if he's hired! Sorry couldn't resist  |
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Post by 56chevy on Dec 21, 2017 22:16:30 GMT -8
There is more to the situation and circumstances than we know. Anderson will do just fine in his future endeavors. We on the other hand are stuck with substantial challenges with our current AD.
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 21, 2017 23:27:22 GMT -8
There is more to the situation and circumstances than we know. Anderson will do just fine in his future endeavors. We on the other hand are stuck with substantial challenges with our current AD. I hope you're not actually asserting that the football team's problems have more to do with OSU's AD than CGA's coaching abilities. Everyone knows OSU is fighting a battle being in the bottom half of the league in resources, and no AD is likely going to change that situation. CGA's coaching "prowess" was laid out for all of us to see, and SO much of the decision making by him was indefensible. Andersen may do fine in his future endeavors, but he very rightly deserves the lion's share of the blame for what happened at Reser the past 3 years. SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 22, 2017 7:48:40 GMT -8
There is more to the situation and circumstances than we know. Anderson will do just fine in his future endeavors. We on the other hand are stuck with substantial challenges with our current AD. I hope you're not actually asserting that the football team's problems have more to do with OSU's AD than CGA's coaching abilities. Everyone knows OSU is fighting a battle being in the bottom half of the league in resources, and no AD is likely going to change that situation. CGA's coaching "prowess" was laid out for all of us to see, and SO much of the decision making by him was indefensible. Andersen may do fine in his future endeavors, but he very rightly deserves the lion's share of the blame for what happened at Reser the past 3 years. SaveSaveSaveSaveOregon State does, in fact, have issues and the AD office has issues. but it has the same issues it has had when Riley gave us all hope with a double overtime win against the Ducks. It has the same issues it had when Erickson and Smith curb stomped Notre Dame and won us 11 games. It has the same issues it had when Riley made us the 2nd winningest program in the Pac over a stretch of 5 years. Issues make it hard for us to be consistent. It makes us hard to compete day in and day out. Issues make us rely on longer cycles of talent development and often leave us with little depth and a roster full of projects. But issues haven't stopped us from winning before. Issues never brought us a whopping 7 wins in 3 years. Everything that is the disaster of 2015-2017 Oregon State is 100%, solely and entirely Gary Andersen. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 22, 2017 8:54:54 GMT -8
Are we going to have another string of comments about Andersen like we had with Riley - god i hope not.
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Post by korculabeav on Dec 22, 2017 10:04:53 GMT -8
I hope you're not actually asserting that the football team's problems have more to do with OSU's AD than CGA's coaching abilities. Everyone knows OSU is fighting a battle being in the bottom half of the league in resources, and no AD is likely going to change that situation. CGA's coaching "prowess" was laid out for all of us to see, and SO much of the decision making by him was indefensible. Andersen may do fine in his future endeavors, but he very rightly deserves the lion's share of the blame for what happened at Reser the past 3 years. SaveSaveSaveSaveOregon State does, in fact, have issues and the AD office has issues. but it has the same issues it has had when Riley gave us all hope with a double overtime win against the Ducks. It has the same issues it had when Erickson and Smith curb stomped Notre Dame and won us 11 games. It has the same issues it had when Riley made us the 2nd winningest program in the Pac over a stretch of 5 years. Issues make it hard for us to be consistent. It makes us hard to compete day in and day out. Issues make us rely on longer cycles of talent development and often leave us with little depth and a roster full of projects. But issues haven't stopped us from winning before. Issues never brought us a whopping 7 wins in 3 years. Everything that is the disaster of 2015-2017 Oregon State is 100%, solely and entirely Gary Andersen. As an employer if a resume and the track record of a candidate like GA’s came across my desk, that person would not get an interview. |
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Post by four2itus on Dec 22, 2017 13:14:22 GMT -8
So...is this yet another thread that is in the wrong place?
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 22, 2017 13:42:58 GMT -8
I hope you're not actually asserting that the football team's problems have more to do with OSU's AD than CGA's coaching abilities. Everyone knows OSU is fighting a battle being in the bottom half of the league in resources, and no AD is likely going to change that situation. CGA's coaching "prowess" was laid out for all of us to see, and SO much of the decision making by him was indefensible. Andersen may do fine in his future endeavors, but he very rightly deserves the lion's share of the blame for what happened at Reser the past 3 years. SaveSaveSaveSaveOregon State does, in fact, have issues and the AD office has issues. but it has the same issues it has had when Riley gave us all hope with a double overtime win against the Ducks. It has the same issues it had when Erickson and Smith curb stomped Notre Dame and won us 11 games. It has the same issues it had when Riley made us the 2nd winningest program in the Pac over a stretch of 5 years. Issues make it hard for us to be consistent. It makes us hard to compete day in and day out. Issues make us rely on longer cycles of talent development and often leave us with little depth and a roster full of projects. But issues haven't stopped us from winning before. Issues never brought us a whopping 7 wins in 3 years. Everything that is the disaster of 2015-2017 Oregon State is 100%, solely and entirely Gary Andersen. I want to point out that there was one big difference at Oregon State during the first years of Riley and the years of Erickson, and that was having President Risser at the helm of the University. He fully understood what a successful program meant, not only to us football fans, but to the general fundraising and enrollment and all other aspects of OSU. My understanding is that if not for his intervention, Dennis wouldn't have come to OSU. And most of the bigger improvements to facilities would have been more difficult to have happen. We owe a lot to Dr. Risser, rest his soul. |
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Post by orangeattack on Dec 22, 2017 14:29:50 GMT -8
I hope you're not actually asserting that the football team's problems have more to do with OSU's AD than CGA's coaching abilities. Everyone knows OSU is fighting a battle being in the bottom half of the league in resources, and no AD is likely going to change that situation. CGA's coaching "prowess" was laid out for all of us to see, and SO much of the decision making by him was indefensible. Andersen may do fine in his future endeavors, but he very rightly deserves the lion's share of the blame for what happened at Reser the past 3 years. SaveSaveSaveSaveOregon State does, in fact, have issues and the AD office has issues. but it has the same issues it has had when Riley gave us all hope with a double overtime win against the Ducks. It has the same issues it had when Erickson and Smith curb stomped Notre Dame and won us 11 games. It has the same issues it had when Riley made us the 2nd winningest program in the Pac over a stretch of 5 years. Issues make it hard for us to be consistent. It makes us hard to compete day in and day out. Issues make us rely on longer cycles of talent development and often leave us with little depth and a roster full of projects. But issues haven't stopped us from winning before. Issues never brought us a whopping 7 wins in 3 years. Everything that is the disaster of 2015-2017 Oregon State is 100%, solely and entirely Gary Andersen. Actually... from the information I've seen, it (the program) doesn't have the same issues. Relative to our peers, it is worse. The Athletic Department as a whole may be "just" in the bottom half of the conference but the spending dedicated to the football program has dwindled from over 25% of the AD budget to at or near 20% of the budget. Simply put, we are dead last in the conference on this item. The AD as a whole has the same issues, but the football program has a worse situation now than St. Dennis' days at the helm. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 14:56:46 GMT -8
Are we going to have another string of comments about Andersen like we had with Riley - god i hope not. i remember the time Gary sent Luke of the River packing... |
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Post by OSUprof on Dec 22, 2017 15:01:48 GMT -8
Those are the values that I've been able to pull out of the US Department of Education data on equity in sports. In fiscal year 2001, OSU allocated 30% of its total athletic department expenses to football. The athletic director was Mitch Barnhardt. After Mitch left, the funding allocated to football under DeCarolis did not rise as fast as for other sports and the AD's administrative budget. This was continued under Stansbury.
By fiscal year 2016, the funds allocated to football dropped to 20% of the total expenses. Our conference competitors allocate an average 28% of total expenses to football. Football expenses only rose by 75% while the overall athletic department expenses rose by 160% over the 15 years. Administrative costs rose by 200% and the department created a new track program as well as increasing funding of several sports by over 200%.
OSU's financial commitment to sports is number 1 in the Pac-12 among public institutions. The OSU athletic department's financial commitment to football is dead last in the Pac-12 and second to last in the Power 5. The problem has been in the AD office not in the president's office. There's a reason why there have been 3 athletic directors and an interim AD in the past 3 years.
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