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Post by RenoBeaver on Feb 15, 2018 6:30:36 GMT -8
All I know is next time I need to write a business plan, I'm cutting and pasting about 75% of that holistic rubric from BTD and add a few charts and pie graphs Or a few graphs and pie charts, whatever works! haha full on word dyslexia
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Post by ochobeavo on Feb 15, 2018 7:19:14 GMT -8
My takeaways from this strategic plan:
Get better at stuff Getting new furniture
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Post by nabeav on Feb 15, 2018 9:41:05 GMT -8
Bobby D rolled out the 12,000 by 2012 plan on a much smaller scale, and I don't think we ever even got close.
There were roughly 6,000 BASF members in 2010. The Our Beaver Nation Membership guide lists 4,532 current annual fund donors, fewest in the Pac-12 conference. On the positive side, those 4,532 raise more money ($9.6M) in annual fund revenue than the 7,714 at Washington State ($5.9M), Utah's 5,885 ($8.0M), or Arizona State's 16,210 ($8.9M)
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 15, 2018 11:42:48 GMT -8
Bobby D rolled out the 12,000 by 2012 plan on a much smaller scale, and I don't think we ever even got close. There were roughly 6,000 BASF members in 2010. The Our Beaver Nation Membership guide lists 4,532 current annual fund donors, fewest in the Pac-12 conference. On the positive side, those 4,532 raise more money ($9.6M) in annual fund revenue than the 7,714 at Washington State ($5.9M), Utah's 5,885 ($8.0M), or Arizona State's 16,210 ($8.9M) 12,000 by 2012 was aspirational more than an actual plan. 12,000 BASF members would have been the most in the conference at the time. 2010 was not the time to roll that out, though.
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Post by atownbeaver on Feb 15, 2018 12:15:40 GMT -8
Last time I saw a count, I believe we were at Men scholarships: 269 and Women scholarships: 276. i am not sure how accurate that still is. Of course, there is a little bit more to it than straight schollie count. practice time, travel time, per diems, equipment and apparell and all that generally needs equal dollars too. But on the surface. it seems like there is *potentially* room to offer 7 track scholarships to Men. the NCAA maximum limit is 12.6 for track and cross country combined. Alternately, the maximum limit for women's track and X country is 18. Generally speaking, when there is a sport that has a men's and women's version (like most sports) women get more scholarships than men, to make up for the 800lb gorilla that is football. As a note on rowing, schools are not allowed to offer men's rowing scholarships from what I can see. women are allowed 20 by NCAA limits. I was coming up with similar numbers. But (and correct me if I am wrong) Oregon State is allowed to offer more scholarships for men than women, because the school is 53% male. By my count, Oregon State could add full cross country and track and field teams for the men and still comply with Title IX. There may be a money issue with adding those teams, but, at least with my napkin math, there is no Title IX issue. I think, in the minimum, if there was title IX concerns, it would not be an insurmountable mountain to climb. They can always just run a track program without maximum scholarship amounts. Or just offer track without X country... We aren't talking about a sport with the footprint of football we are talking about balancing out 12 scholarships basically. The issue is, and always is, track was cut from the budget in the late 80's. It needs to get a funding base to go, and so far that dollars have not emerged. the Whyte complex was basically all donations, which is why there is on phase II. and it isn't like we are talking stadium dollars. the whole shebang always had a relatively modest price tag.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Feb 16, 2018 9:43:32 GMT -8
In addition to helping football, adding men's track is necessary to compete in women's track with a full team. To get to the needed staffing of 8 track coaches, you need the full complement of men's and women's coaches - which then allows for much more specialization. The track was paid for completely by Whyte, a former track athlete. There was even a donor willing to put big money into a grandstand, but Stansbury screwed that whole thing up and cost OSU the chance to host the PAC-12 championship. A lot of former track athletes have worked very hard to rebuild the program, with very little thanks / support from the AD over the years.
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Post by grackle on Feb 19, 2018 6:09:25 GMT -8
Sheesh....having been an OSU administrator myself, I pretty well know "strategic planning" hot air and space filling BS when I see it. And, oh brother, Barnes has piled it high and wide with this seemingly endless nonsense.
He should have just put out a half-page statement to the effect that (1) he's going to do his best to raise more $$$ in the near future and (2) finishing Reser is absolutely priority one.
Barnes is just another half-baked politician. OSU already has plenty of those as administrators -- we didn't need another. Especially in the AD's office.
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Post by obf on Feb 19, 2018 13:41:01 GMT -8
Sheesh....having been an OSU administrator myself, I pretty well know "strategic planning" hot air and space filling BS when I see it. And, oh brother, Barnes has piled it high and wide with this seemingly endless nonsense. He should have just put out a half-page statement to the effect that (1) he's going to do his best to raise more $$$ in the near future and (2) finishing Reser is absolutely priority one. Barnes is just another half-baked politician. OSU already has plenty of those as administrators -- we didn't need another. Especially in the AD's office. Just like this post is all hot air, BS, and nonsense? You know, I have seen plenty of hot air, BS and nonsense in the corporate world, and sure some of it has led to nothing and was a waste of time, money and energy... I have also seen that hot air, BS and nonsense inspire and encourage the employees to achieve something good, great or even awesome, sometimes it hit the goal the BS hoped to achieve, sometimes it was totally different. I have also see something that LOOKED like and we ASSUMED was hot air, BS and nonsense have substantial substance and content and enabled the organization to succeed beyond all hopes and aspirations! But you know what I have NEVER seen? I have never seen a large organization go out with no plan, no vision, and no at least half hearted attempt at a little political, rah rah, hot air, BS and nonsense do anything other than utterly fail! Maybe you are sick of the politicians that spew hot air, BS, and nonsense, but I sure am glad we have one, because a small chance of success is WAY better than no chance at all...
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Post by grackle on Feb 20, 2018 8:28:35 GMT -8
More proof that Barnes is just another slick load of hot air....here's the note he sent to Beaver nation last night after a mouth-breather shouted racial epithets during last Sunday's womens basket game vs USC: _________________________________ "Dear Beaver Nation,
We are fortunate to have fan support that creates an amazing home court/field advantage that plays out every week in the Best College Town in the Pac-12.
I would like to remind you that good sportsmanship is a key emphasis at Oregon State University and also among all members of the Pac-12 Conference. Sportsmanship creates a high standard of respect, and ultimately promotes mutual trust and confidence for the student-athletes that represent the Beavers, our university and the conference.
With this in mind, we encourage you to exhibit your continued passion for the outstanding men and women who represent this outstanding university, in a way that promotes a culture that is welcoming for all attendees and participants at our athletics events.
Go Beavs!
S. Scott Barnes VP/Director of Athletics" ___________________________________________________
Hey Scott...next time try saying what you really mean. If you want to call out the lout that used racially-tinged language last Sunday, then damnit, SAY SO. Your note is like your blathering "strategic plan" for athletics...dancing around the real issue(s) with a lot of BS and politically-correct nonsense....
Get to the heart of things and take a stand. Maybe you'll get something accomplished that way.
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Post by nforkbeav on Feb 20, 2018 11:25:06 GMT -8
More proof that Barnes is just another slick load of hot air....here's the note he sent to Beaver nation last night after a mouth-breather shouted racial epithets during last Sunday's womens basket game vs USC: _________________________________ "Dear Beaver Nation, We are fortunate to have fan support that creates an amazing home court/field advantage that plays out every week in the Best College Town in the Pac-12. I would like to remind you that good sportsmanship is a key emphasis at Oregon State University and also among all members of the Pac-12 Conference. Sportsmanship creates a high standard of respect, and ultimately promotes mutual trust and confidence for the student-athletes that represent the Beavers, our university and the conference. With this in mind, we encourage you to exhibit your continued passion for the outstanding men and women who represent this outstanding university, in a way that promotes a culture that is welcoming for all attendees and participants at our athletics events. Go Beavs! S. Scott Barnes VP/Director of Athletics" ___________________________________________________ Hey Scott...next time try saying what you really mean. If you want to call out the lout that used racially-tinged language last Sunday, then damnit, SAY SO. Your note is like your blathering "strategic plan" for athletics...dancing around the real issue(s) with a lot of BS and politically-correct nonsense.... Get to the heart of things and take a stand. Maybe you'll get something accomplished that way. Where's the thumbs down button?
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Post by nabeav on Feb 20, 2018 12:40:45 GMT -8
here's the note he sent to Beaver nation last night after a mouth-breather shouted racial epithets during last Sunday's womens basket game vs USC:Do you seriously believe that such a thing as you're describing above happened during the game? You're the first person here locally to contend so. I don’t know that I “seriously believe” it, but I find it more likely than a USC player fabricating the whole story because she’s upset she lost a game.
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Post by nabeav on Feb 20, 2018 13:09:48 GMT -8
@beaverfever - gotcha. I agree that during the game seems unlikely.
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 20, 2018 13:18:47 GMT -8
Do you seriously believe that such a thing as you're describing above happened during the game? You're the first person here locally to contend so. I don’t know that I “seriously believe” it, but I find it more likely than a USC player fabricating the whole story because she’s upset she lost a game. It's a generic, "let's placate, regardless of what the truth is" - as a fan I found it rather insulting to find it in my in-box, particularly as the method of sending had it set up as addressed directly to me, so that it was like I was being singled out for this ephemeral tap on the wrist.
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Post by grackle on Feb 22, 2018 8:36:23 GMT -8
@beaverfever - gotcha. I agree that during the game seems unlikely. So, if nothing untoward happened either during or immediately after the game, why did Barnes send feel the necessity to send his "Let's all be good" message to Beaver fans? No....clearly something DID occur during that time frame that shouldn't have. Otherwise Barnes would not have acted as did. My problem is that his note was wishy-washy, non-specific and unlikely to achieve the result he wanted. Barnes gets paid he big bucks to be effective. He needs to start going to the heart of issues, not dancing around them.
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Post by nforkbeav on Feb 22, 2018 11:42:38 GMT -8
@beaverfever - gotcha. I agree that during the game seems unlikely. So, if nothing untoward happened either during or immediately after the game, why did Barnes send feel the necessity to send his "Let's all be good" message to Beaver fans? No....clearly something DID occur during that time frame that shouldn't have. Otherwise Barnes would not have acted as did. My problem is that his note was wishy-washy, non-specific and unlikely to achieve the result he wanted. Barnes gets paid he big bucks to be effective. He needs to start going to the heart of issues, not dancing around them. Maybe because we live in a day and age where an accusation, true or false, can live a life of it's own and travel around the country-world in a matter of minutes before any real evidence or fact finding is put together. Duke torpedoed it's men's lacross program based on a false accusation. So your logic above is faulty, action can be taken by a third party even when nothing happened. False accusations can stir just as much public pressure "to do something" as legitimate ones. So just because OSU took steps to use this occasion to remind people of appropriate behavior, that has no bearing at all on whether the allegations the player made were 100% true, 20% true, or not true at all.
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