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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 6, 2017 21:30:45 GMT -8
Not having West coast ties would be a big concern. But it would be a Curt Gibson HR! Is he related to Kirk Gibson?
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Post by dryfly on Nov 6, 2017 21:38:40 GMT -8
Thanks Spud. I shoulda Wiki'd before I posted.
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 6, 2017 21:41:28 GMT -8
I had to look it up to clear my confusion. Started sounding right!
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Nov 6, 2017 21:49:25 GMT -8
Send up a bat signal to the bayou baw. I would like to hear his perspective on this.
Go Beavs!!
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Post by jimbeav on Nov 6, 2017 22:09:01 GMT -8
The national exposure would be off the charts, and man oh man...talk about getting the players' attention. My only pause is that I'm hesitant to get another coach with a defensive mindset, who doesn't know much about or involve himself in the offense. I just don't think that coaches like that are a good fit in this conference.
But then again, that kind of thinking might be part of the "get the opposite of what you just had" fallacy, and is probably not a strong enough justification to turn down the instant national cred our program would get with such a move.
Exciting times...
GO BEAVS!
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Post by seastape on Nov 7, 2017 2:02:17 GMT -8
Second coming of DE? Could be cool if it happens DE inherited an OSU program on a decided UPSWING. Riley had all the parts in place for success. Whomever "inherits" this thing won't enjoy the same blessings. Miles is intriguing, though. Not sure he knows a damn thing about the west coast. But, football? Yup. While I think that the talent level on this team is near the bottom of the Pac 12, I also think that it is still workable talent. Coaching is coaching and, far more than our old coach from Utah was willing to admit, coaching makes all the difference at the college level. Check out USC under Paul Hackett, who sunk SC to lows that the school should never encounter with the talent they amass. Check out OSU in 1998, when Mike Riley, with many Pettibone players, turned OSU into a 5-6 program with 2 of out the last 3 losses were by one point and the last loss on the season was by a touchdown. Or look at OSU this year. Our old coach from Utah barely snuck our team by a winless FCS team earlier this year. As down as the talent may (or may not) be, it certainly wasn't as low as a winless FCS team's talent level. But, the coaching was so poor that the team needed a little bit of luck to squeeze out that victory. Coaching makes the difference. Miles has the talent to coach. I suspect if he was hired the turnaround would happen a lot quicker than expected.
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Post by beaverinohio on Nov 7, 2017 7:19:00 GMT -8
Not having West coast ties would be a big concern. But it would be a Curt Gibson HR! Why would not having West Coast ties be a big concern? Recruiting? From 2008 to 2017 according to 247, the 3 highest rankings for OSU's recruiting class have been 42, 44, and 45. The rest have been been worse than 50 including three that were ranked 60-62. During 8 of those 10 years, the yearly average rating for recruits was 83.85 to 82.44. Even if he didn't hire some assistant coaches with West Coast ties (which I'm sure he would), I have a hard time believing recruiting would suffer much if at all while he establishes relationships. Sure all things being equal, West Coast ties would be nice. But why limit your hiring pool. Hire a coach you think will get you to where you want to be no matter where he is from. He'll put the right people in place to succeed.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 7, 2017 7:24:54 GMT -8
Why isn't he still at LSU? Why was he fired, and replaced by an obvious lesser-light like Ogeron?
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 7, 2017 7:47:50 GMT -8
Les Miles is interested in keeping his LSU money coming in by making a serious and earnest effort to find another coaching job.
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Post by rockybeav on Nov 7, 2017 8:05:55 GMT -8
Les Miles is interested in keeping his LSU money coming in by making a serious and earnest effort to find another coaching job. He made a hard run at the Houston opening last year. I don’t think it’s impossible to think he’d be interested in a P12 program that has shown patience with their coaching staff.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 7, 2017 8:37:01 GMT -8
Oh my god not the no west coast ties argument. C'mon peeps, it's Les Miles, he's probably one of 10 active college coaches (albeit he's not active) with a NC ring, one of maybe 5 who has coached in 2 NC games, has a winning % of 0.719, and has won 8 bowl games.
Let me put that another way. He would be the ONLY pac 12 coach who has a NC ring, or has even been the HC in a NC game. You are worried about west coast ties?
if Les Miles wants the job, kinda gotta put him at top of list based on name factor and what he brings to the table.
Wait, let me edit that. If I'm counting correctly, there are only 4 active college coaches with NC rings right (Saban, Meyer, Fischer, and Sweeney). Am I missing anyone there?
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 7, 2017 8:41:43 GMT -8
Les Miles is interested in keeping his LSU money coming in by making a serious and earnest effort to find another coaching job. Is that how it works? He has to be seeking employment?
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Post by nabeav on Nov 7, 2017 8:41:48 GMT -8
Les Miles went 3-7 vs. Nick Saban, losing the last five times in a row. Don't want a coach who can't figure out how to beat his rival.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 7, 2017 8:46:55 GMT -8
Les Miles went 3-7 vs. Nick Saban, losing the last five times in a row. Don't want a coach who can't figure out how to beat his rival.
Only 7 active head coaches even have wins against Saban at Alabama. Since 2008, Alabama has only lost 13 times. Among active head coaches, Auburn’s Gus Malzahn, Clemson’s Dabo Swinney, Texas A&M’s Kevin Sumlin and Utah’s Kyle Whittingham have defeated a Saban-coached team once, and only Hugh Freeze and Urban Meyer have done it twice (the others were Steve Spurrier, Gene Chizik, Stoops and Les Miles twice).
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Post by rockybeav on Nov 7, 2017 8:51:16 GMT -8
Les Miles went 3-7 vs. Nick Saban, losing the last five times in a row. Don't want a coach who can't figure out how to beat his rival. This is how you feel about Riley losing all those Civil War games then right? I know it’s how I feel. Now, if Riley was losing to Saban, different story.
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