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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 7, 2017 10:59:03 GMT -8
He is a great coach, no doubt. I will also say (through his recruiting efforts, he had some incredible trench players), and a great surrounding area for recruiting! Can he do the same in the PAC 12, West Coast, in a conference where your offense needs to be able to consistently put up about 30 pts a game to compete? Would he be able to recruit those great O and D Lineman here consistently to Oregon State? I don't know but I have my doubts. It's an intriguing and exciting thought, however these two leagues, schools and regions of the country are completely different! He certainly could bring in some good coordinators and assistants I'd bet though. I'm not as sold on him but it's interesting! Go Beavs! I looked it up because I've always thought their offense sorta sucked, but he's had numerous years where their offense was top 20 and/or averaged over 30 ppg
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Post by beavadelic on Nov 7, 2017 11:04:12 GMT -8
The national exposure would be off the charts, and man oh man...talk about getting the players' attention. My only pause is that I'm hesitant to get another coach with a defensive mindset, who doesn't know much about or involve himself in the offense. I just don't think that coaches like that are a good fit in this conference. But then again, that kind of thinking might be part of the "get the opposite of what you just had" fallacy, and is probably not a strong enough justification to turn down the instant national cred our program would get with such a move. Exciting times... GO BEAVS! [br First, let’s just say that LM has a little more impressive pedigree than our most recent, defensive-minded coaches. Further, as good as Alabama is on the defensive side of the ball year in and year out, LSU under Miles was quite possibly every bit as good, if not better. Ridiculous, smothering defense with elite athletes all over the place. I know that we wouldn’t reel in nearly as many 5 stars to Corvallis, but if any coach would have the cred and connections to do it, Miles is the guy. His offenses were pedestrian, but I mostly feel like it was the QB position that limited his teams. He had some good running backs and a phenomenal group of receivers (a whole lot more Tiger alums are WRs in the League than Saban or anyone else (maybe other than Clemson or USC) have put in the pros. All he would need is to tap his reservoir of contacts to get an OC who understands and implements a decent passing attack and a lot of PAC 12 schools would be very nervous, very quickly.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 7, 2017 11:04:52 GMT -8
He is a great coach, no doubt. I will also say (through his recruiting efforts, he had some incredible trench players), and a great surrounding area for recruiting! Can he do the same in the PAC 12, West Coast, in a conference where your offense needs to be able to consistently put up about 30 pts a game to compete? Would he be able to recruit those great O and D Lineman here consistently to Oregon State? I don't know but I have my doubts. It's an intriguing and exciting thought, however these two leagues, schools and regions of the country are completely different! He certainly could bring in some good coordinators and assistants I'd bet though. I'm not as sold on him but it's interesting! Go Beavs! I looked it up because I've always thought their offense sorta sucked, but he's had numerous years where their offense was top 20 and/or averaged over 30 ppg And... people forget his offenses were going against some of the top D's in the country year in and year out, not the namby pamby D's of the Pac12. I 'd love to see a nasty D beating the s%#te out of Pac12 opponents and averaging mid to high 20's and up on offense and still at a +7 to 10 point differential .
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Post by beavadelic on Nov 7, 2017 11:08:55 GMT -8
He is a great coach, no doubt. I will also say (through his recruiting efforts, he had some incredible trench players), and a great surrounding area for recruiting! Can he do the same in the PAC 12, West Coast, in a conference where your offense needs to be able to consistently put up about 30 pts a game to compete? Would he be able to recruit those great O and D Lineman here consistently to Oregon State? I don't know but I have my doubts. It's an intriguing and exciting thought, however these two leagues, schools and regions of the country are completely different! He certainly could bring in some good coordinators and assistants I'd bet though. I'm not as sold on him but it's interesting! Go Beavs! If he comes to Corvallis, within a couple of years we will be so good on the defensive side of the ball that 17 points would win most games. I literally felt that it was an accomplishment for most teams to get first downs against his defenses.
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Nov 7, 2017 11:24:35 GMT -8
Who was the last college HC to get fired for on-field results that went on to succeed when given a 2nd chance? I can think of plenty of flops, but the last retread to win a major conference championship was apparently Gene Stallings at Bama in 1992. Mark Richt anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 11:30:58 GMT -8
Who was the last college HC to get fired for on-field results that went on to succeed when given a 2nd chance? I can think of plenty of flops, but the last retread to win a major conference championship was apparently Gene Stallings at Bama in 1992. Mark Richt anyone? Hasn't won it yet but yeah; he is doing pretty good at Miami.
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Post by ochobeavo on Nov 7, 2017 11:48:31 GMT -8
I'd love to have LM, but realistically, I don't see how he comes out west over possible openings in the SEC (or even ACC/B12). I think we'd be lower on his list, a bigger rebuild and schools like Tennessee, Arkansas, TX A&M would throw more money at him - plus given that just about every head coach is borderline insanely competitive - I'd imagine he's wanting to get back into the SEC just to prove'em wrong.
Here's hoping he proves me wrong!
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 7, 2017 11:57:45 GMT -8
Who was the last college HC to get fired for on-field results that went on to succeed when given a 2nd chance? I can think of plenty of flops, but the last retread to win a major conference championship was apparently Gene Stallings at Bama in 1992. Mark Richt anyone? Richrod didn't win the Pac 12, but he won the Pac 12 south.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 7, 2017 12:06:10 GMT -8
Another long-in-the-tooth retread. No thanks. There's a reason LSU canned him.
If all he needs to do to win at OSU is to get an OC from his vast list of contacts, why didn't he do that at LSU so he'd still be coaching there? Even with great RBs, LSU's offenses were terrible.
There were plenty of jobs open this last offseason. Why wasn't he hired?
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 7, 2017 12:09:46 GMT -8
Les Miles went 3-7 vs. Nick Saban, losing the last five times in a row. Don't want a coach who can't figure out how to beat his rival. I absolutely hope that you forgot how to use the sarcasm font.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 7, 2017 12:11:00 GMT -8
Beau Baldwin has a lot less miles than Les Miles, but I'm more inclined to go with Les. assuming it works out, the Beavers can regain their reputation for doing more with Les. Les Miles is 63, this would surely be his last gig. Baldwin wouldn't stay long in Corvallis if he turned it around.
Can't believe Miles is older than Tedford, Tedford looks 10 years older.
I'm not so certain Baldwin would jump from OSU at the first opportunity, he spent a lot of years in Cheney Washington (although the metropoolis of Spokane is pretty close). Cal may have been his first opportunity to get out, but I kind of doubt it. I suspect that he, like pretty much any coach, would listen to offers, but it would have to be a big jump up program or pay-wise to get him to move.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 7, 2017 13:50:17 GMT -8
Les Miles is 63, this would surely be his last gig. Baldwin wouldn't stay long in Corvallis if he turned it around.
Can't believe Miles is older than Tedford, Tedford looks 10 years older.
I'm not so certain Baldwin would jump from OSU at the first opportunity, he spent a lot of years in Cheney Washington (although the metropoolis of Spokane is pretty close). Cal may have been his first opportunity to get out, but I kind of doubt it. I suspect that he, like pretty much any coach, would listen to offers, but it would have to be a big jump up program or pay-wise to get him to move. I'd hope so. But Oregon State is at or near the bottom in both categories as a P5 school. If he could get OSU in the 9-win realm, the top 20 or 30 is coming after him, with millions more to offer.
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Post by orangeattack on Nov 7, 2017 13:59:02 GMT -8
If Les Miles wants this job, this is Dennis Erickson coming calling again. He will stay for 4-5 years and the program will be in immensely better shape when he leaves than it was when he came in, overall.
Everyone should be emailing Scott Barnes and telling him if he can get Les Miles and doesn't, we are going to burn him in effigy for the rest of all days....
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 7, 2017 14:18:56 GMT -8
If Les Miles wants this job, this is Dennis Erickson coming calling again. He will stay for 4-5 years and the program will be in immensely better shape when he leaves than it was when he came in, overall. Everyone should be emailing Scott Barnes and telling him if he can get Les Miles and doesn't, we are going to burn him in effigy for the rest of all days.... I agree 100%. he is not a long term hire. But he will, in the minimum, get the defense fix and start the process of improving offense. He is immediately a credible, big name that will immediately raise our recruiting profile. Our 4* QB commit ain't gonna waiver if we hire Miles. defensive prospects will suddenly listen. If he did one thing real well, it was put defenders in the NFL. Miles will get this team back to a regular winner and be in a very good position for the next guy.
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Post by beaverbeliever89 on Nov 7, 2017 14:24:00 GMT -8
Man I certainly hope that Barnes and the search firm does all of the background work to chose the right coach or coaches for this rebuild and does not take into consideration the blogger bases many opinions of who is the right man for the job. Whomever they choose, I will not bash it. My only hope is that the choice is better vetted than the Anderson hire which looked like a home run on paper. Corvallis is a different market and who ever steps up to lead this program deserves 100% backing until proven to be over his skiis. Go Beavs!!!
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